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Old 01-19-2019, 04:24 PM
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Trump made a pretty good compromise.

Now we'll see if libs cross their arms, stick their noses up in the air, and say, "nope nope nope nope nope!"

I'm guessin' the latter. Libs are stubborn and have no desire to negotiate. They want their way or the highway and against anything that resembles border security or a stop to illegal immigration. They want peeps to flood over the border at will.
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:39 PM
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Here's what Trump offered. Keep in mind libs rejected this before Trump spoke or even knew what he was gonna offer, lolz.

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Trump said that he was prepared to back a three-year extension of protections for 700,000 immigrants who came to the country illegally as children and were shielded from deportation under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, in exchange for the $5.7 billion he has requested for a wall on the southern border.

The deal would also extend protections for 300,000 recipients of the Temporary Protected Status (TPS) program -- which protects immigrants from designated countries with conditions that prevent nationals from returning safely.
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It would also offer $800 million for drug detection technology to secure ports of entry, 2,750 new border agents and law enforcement professionals, and 75 new immigration judges to reduce the backlog of asylum requests. He said that all his measures have been supported by Democrats before.
Trump offers immigration compromise to end partial shutdown; Dems cool to offer
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Here's what Trump offered. Keep in mind libs rejected this before Trump spoke or even knew what he was gonna offer, lolz.





Trump offers immigration compromise to end partial shutdown; Dems cool to offer
abc interrupted nba game to tell us pelosi said trump’s offer is a nonstarter.
so there you have it.
i’m guessing she had that answer before his offer and would be the answer no matter what his offer was.
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abc interrupted nba game to tell us pelosi said trump’s offer is a nonstarter.
so there you have it.
i’m guessing she had that answer before his offer and would be the answer no matter what his offer was.
Pretty much. The beauty of this address though and the libs' response is it shows the American peeps the government shutdown is on them for not wanting to negotiate at all. Peeps aren't gonna view the, "My way or the highway" stance positively.

At least we didn't have a creepy response by Pelosi and Schumer standin' side-by-side staring at the camera like some hostage video without blinking.
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Okay, to summarize:

He increased his demands.

He offered in return only a temporary protection for DACA recipients, which is they already have through the courts because he tried to take it away.

That's not compromise. You aren't compromising by increasing your demands while offering nothing that is actually tangible in exchange.

Funny thing is if he had dropped his stupid wall, the rest of the deal in regards to border security would likely have been more palatable to most Americans and members of Congress on both sides. Unfortunately his ego and his desire to keep his base from crumbling away got in the way of reopening the government, again.
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Okay, to summarize:

He increased his demands.

He offered in return only a temporary protection for DACA recipients, which is they already have through the courts because he tried to take it away.

That's not compromise. You aren't compromising by increasing your demands while offering nothing that is actually tangible in exchange.

Funny thing is if he had dropped his stupid wall, the rest of the deal in regards to border security would likely have been more palatable to most Americans and members of Congress on both sides. Unfortunately his ego and his desire to keep his base from crumbling away got in the way of reopening the government, again.
After decades of abuse, the left has no validity in the use of the word "compromise." Wally, I'm afraid that includes their sycophants as well.

The current President is an enigma to the left and the entrenched RINO right of Washington D.C. Someone who stands on principle and is willing to negotiate to the point of half way. Demands made beyond that, he walks away from the table.

'Bout damn time we had one of those take charge of those in charge.
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He increased his demands.
I heard some partisan talking head on MSNBC use those exact words.

Bottom line is libs were gonna be against whatever Trump said. He coulda said he discovered the cure to cancer and libs woulda rejected it. Obstructionists and haters are all libs know how to do; at least under this POTUS.
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News outlets are sayin' he's not gonna declare a national emergency; instead gonna make libs an offer to end shutdown.
Whereas I do not believe that President Trump always delivers an excellent speech, I do believe that this does rise to the level of excellence.

The Democrats are now left with just two possibilities: Either accept the president's proposal, or reveal themselves as pure obstructionists.

The latter will no doubt play well with their own base. But I doubt that it will do so well with independents.
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But I doubt that it will do so well with independents.
Exactly. This is why it was ingenious to make this offer in front of a national television audience. Libs can't lie 'bout what Trump said. He showed the country that he's willing to negotiate. Libs will now show the country they have no desire to negotiate or secure the border. They just wanna oppose anything Trump says/does.
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So it's a promise of some temporary protection for DACA people, of whom are already being protected thanks to the courts, for a permanent moneyhole that won't do much to stop illegal immigration, that'll also get tied up in the courts over eminent domain suits out the ass.

I'm doubtful anyone would agree to the deal.

"Here's a thing you sort of already have, gimme wall."

Art of the deal lol.
Well most compromise meetings are discussed with both sides represented at the table, but this is tha Donald so hee-hee-hee
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