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Old 01-14-2019, 03:57 PM
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Well, then why is he holding the US hostage instead of “compelling” Mexico to make that payment?
First, we don't know what's going on in the background...

Secondly, let's skip this immature "holding the country hostage" bullsh*t...Just because the media and Democrat leaders got together and decided to make this their narrative doesn't mean you have to follow like a lemming...
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First, we don't know what's going on in the background...

Secondly, let's skip this immature "holding the country hostage" bullsh*t...Just because the media and Democrat leaders got together and decided to make this their narrative doesn't mean you have to follow like a lemming...
But Redd, don't you know that Liberals across the country are suffering immensely due to Trump? Their lives are in utter shambles, and many may never recover.
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No, I saw it. Trump listed several ways that he would put pressure on Mexico to force them to make a direct payment of $5-10 billion for the wall. When’s that going to happen?
To this point you haven't shown where he actually said that. All you have done is post part of letter by candidate Trump and blatantly misquoted it.
So, can you show us where President Trump claimed Mexico would "make a direct payment of $5-10 billion for the wall."? Or are we to assume you're lying.
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Well, then why is he holding the US hostage instead of “compelling” Mexico to make that payment?
I want to be the first to say that I am sorry for the way Trump has ruined your life.

I hope some day you are able to climb out of the utter despair that Trump has forced upon you. I also hope your Liberal family and friends will some day be able to get their lives back on track.

It's obvious that only Republicans are benefiting from the booming economy, and that most Liberals are out of work and living on Ramen noodles until another Messiah gets elected to pull them out of their despicable predicament.

Have you tried praying? It always works for me. But you can't just say it, you have to believe it.
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I want to be the first to say that I am sorry for the way Trump has ruined your life.

I hope some day you are able to climb out of the utter despair that Trump has forced upon you. I also hope your Liberal family and friends will some day be able to get their lives back on track.

It's obvious that only Republicans are benefiting from the booming economy, and that most Liberals are out of work and living on Ramen noodles until another Messiah gets elected to pull them out of their despicable predicament.

Have you tried praying? It always works for me. But you can't just say it, you have to believe it.
Most liberals that I know, pray to the DNC or Obama as they believe either or both are gods. It's no wonder they get no results.
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Well, that's good. If Trump's keeping his promise, that must mean that Mexico is funding the wall and we can end this shutdown.
Let's apply the same approach to Mexico paying for the wall as Democrats are to securing the border. Democrats should vote to fund the wall and the other border security measures in return for Republican promises that Mexico will be made to pay for it. We are supposed to take Democrats at their word they support securing the border so why would there be any doubt the promise Mexico will pay for the wall?
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I want to be the first to say that I am sorry for the way Trump has ruined your life.

I hope some day you are able to climb out of the utter despair that Trump has forced upon you. I also hope your Liberal family and friends will some day be able to get their lives back on track.

It's obvious that only Republicans are benefiting from the booming economy, and that most Liberals are out of work and living on Ramen noodles until another Messiah gets elected to pull them out of their despicable predicament.

Have you tried praying? It always works for me. But you can't just say it, you have to believe it.
Thanks, but I’m am atheist. The election of Trump as president is pretty clear proof that there is no god.
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Thanks, but I’m am atheist. The election of Trump as president is pretty clear proof that there is no god.
I kind of thought you were, it figures that you do not believe in anything.

I would guess that you believe in fate only. With faith you are able to control your destiny. I guess your faith is controlled by politics. Just remember, that is also your fate.
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I scaled your rambling post down to the point, however the point is wrong. Ask Israel. Trump: Is a Border Wall Effective? Ask Israel | CBN News
Is it the fence (not wall) along Israel's Southern border that's effective or the 10 Border Police plus volunteer border patrol agents PER MILE that are effective along this 150 mile stretch of Israeli border.

Of note we already have almost 700 miles of vehicle and pedestrian fencing along our Southern boarder where studies established it would be effective. There are no studies that support fencing along all of our border with Mexico, about half of which is privately owned, that Trump has proposed.

Simple question:

Should the Congress back Trump's $70 billion "wall" with an initial down payment of $5.7 billion for 2019 or should Congress take the time to study the most cost effective means of providing border security and provide funding for that?
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Is it the fence (not wall) along Israel's Southern border that's effective or the 10 Border Police plus volunteer border patrol agents PER MILE that are effective along this 150 mile stretch of Israeli border.
It's a wall, called a wall several times by the people who built it.
Do you have a link to back up your "10 Border Police plus volunteer border patrol agents PER MILE" statement or is this just more of you posting what you want to be true?

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Should the Congress back Trump's $70 billion "wall" with an initial down payment of $5.7 billion for 2019 or should Congress take the time to study the most cost effective means of providing border security and provide funding for that?
You have been provided with evidence of a border wall's effectiveness by myself and other in different threads, you of course ignored them.

What do you think of the overwhelming support of a border wall by those charged with protecting our border, the boots on the ground border agents?
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