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Old 01-14-2019, 12:31 PM
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Democrats hate it when promises are kept, and the people get what they want. That's is not how they want the government to run. They prefer empty, "feel good" promises, that are never kept.
Well, that's good. If Trump's keeping his promise, that must mean that Mexico is funding the wall and we can end this shutdown.
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I scaled your rambling post down to the point, however the point is wrong. Ask Israel. Trump: Is a Border Wall Effective? Ask Israel | CBN News
Walls do not STOP armies intent on gaining access. But they do impede them. What is inside must be worth the price paid to breach the defenses.

As you point out Walls do work. I have yet to see anyone apposed to the Southern wall system show that they themselves live without them, or fences or doors and windows with locks on them.

Perhaps ShivaT can prove me wrong by example.
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Walls do not STOP armies intent on gaining access. But they do impede them. What is inside must be worth the price paid to breach the defenses.

As you point out Walls do work. I have yet to see anyone apposed to the Southern wall system show that they themselves live without them, or fences or doors and windows with locks on them.

Perhaps ShivaT can prove me wrong by example.
You won't get any of our resident lefties to admit to anything that would show support for a position that Trump has taken. If he came out and stated that water was wet, they would argue until they were blue in the face that he was lying and that water was in fact dry. That is what it takes to be a liberal/progressive these days. Their anger at Trump beating Hillary in the election, supersedes any logical thought.
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Well, that's good. If Trump's keeping his promise, that must mean that Mexico is funding the wall and we can end this shutdown.
A nonsensical statement which does nothing to prove the structure should not be built.

I have looked everywhere and have yet to find where candidate Trump said Mexico would "write a check." Even if they did, it would be backed in some fashion by USA dollars, The left would be quick to point that out ,,,; so..?
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You won't get any of our resident lefties to admit to anything that would show support for a position that Trump has taken. If he came out and stated that water was wet, they would argue until they were blue in the face that he was lying and that water was in fact dry. That is what it takes to be a liberal/progressive these days. Their anger at Trump beating Hillary in the election, supersedes any logical thought.
Actually the left would divert the conversation and claim that water was actually blue. Then call conservatives incensitive racists for not noticing.
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A nonsensical statement which does nothing to prove the structure should not be built.

I have looked everywhere and have yet to find where candidate Trump said Mexico would "write a check." Even if they did, it would be backed in some fashion by USA dollars, The left would be quick to point that out ,,,; so..?
When Trump said that Mexico would make a “one-time payment of $5-10 billion,” he might have meant wire transfer instead of check, so I guess you’re technically correct.
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When Trump said that Mexico would make a “one-time payment of $5-10 billion,” he might have meant wire transfer instead of check, so I guess you’re technically correct.
Did you read what you posted? President Trump didn't say "Mexico will make a one time payment of 5-10 billion". He said they would if they want to keep $24 billion a year flowing across the border.
Also, can't help but notice you cut off the part where he explains several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall.
Your posts on this subject are rapidly moving from willful ignorance to bald-faced lies.
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Did you read what you posted? President Trump didn't say "Mexico will make a one time payment of 5-10 billion". He said they would if they want to keep $24 billion a year flowing across the border.
Also, can't help but notice you cut off the part where he explains several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall.
Your posts on this subject are rapidly moving from willful ignorance to bald-faced lies.
No, I saw it. Trump listed several ways that he would put pressure on Mexico to force them to make a direct payment of $5-10 billion for the wall. When’s that going to happen?
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When Trump said that Mexico would make a “one-time payment of $5-10 billion,” he might have meant wire transfer instead of check, so I guess you’re technically correct.
Did you bother to read the very next sentence?...

"There are many way to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:"

He didn't say "Mexico WILL make a one-time payment"...

He said "Here are some ways to COMPEL Mexico to make a one-time payment."...
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Did you bother to read the very next sentence?...

"There are many way to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:"

He didn't say "Mexico WILL make a one-time payment"...

He said "Here are some ways to COMPEL Mexico to make a one-time payment."...
Well, then why is he holding the US hostage instead of “compelling” Mexico to make that payment?
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