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Default Blame game begins as federal government shutdown over wall impasse

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Blame game begins as federal government partially shuts down over wall impasse

The federal government partially shut down on midnight Saturday after lawmakers were unable to reach agreement on a spending deal to keep the government open -- and a race to assign blame began.
The partial shutdown began at midnight a few hours after House and Senate adjourned. It was expected to last at least a few days, with sources on both sides of the aisle telling Fox News that Washington could be in for a prolonged shutdown. The White House, however, was projecting confidence that they could secure a deal.

The main sticking point for negotiations was funding for Trump's signature 2016 campaign promise of a wall on the southern border. Trump had demanded $5.7 billion for wall funding, and a bill with that funding attached passed the House on Friday. But efforts have snarled in the Senate, where 60 votes were required for passage, and therefore Democrat votes are needed.

Late Friday he emphasized the need for a wall in a video he posted to Twitter and blamed the shutdown on the Democrats.
“We’re going to have a shutdown, there’s nothing we can do about that because we need the Democrats to give us their votes,” he said. “Call it a Democrat shutdown, call it whatever you want, but we need their help to get this approved.”

Democrats meanwhile sought to blame the president and blasted what they called a “temper tantrum” from the White House.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/par...me-game-begins

I've been watching Fox News as well as Mitch McConnell's statements before the Senate and the Republicans are nefariously trying to use history that misrepresents the truth. Here are key points of their arguments.

Democrats supported the building of walls (and fences) in 2006 but won't support it now.

True and False - Democrats did support the building of walls (and fences) in key areas along the US-Mexico border in 2006 and those walls (and fences) already exist. Trump wants funding for a "wall" (and fences along the border where they won't be as effective as other means of border security for the same cost. Technology has over-taken a "wall" in many places and the same dollars would be better used in that regard.

Democrats agreed to provide $5 billion last year for the wall.

True and False - Yes, Democrats agreed to provide $5 billion in funding for Trump's "wall" last year in exchange for protections for DACA. This was a compromise that Democrats were willing to accept. Trump voided that agreement by then demanding that immigration be cut in half and that the family based immigration and diversity lottery be terminated.

Democrats are opposing border security.

Totally False - Fox News, the GOP, and President are now nefariously using the term "Border Security" to disguise funding for the "Border Wall" in their current attacks. The Democrats will support an additional $5 billion for border security as long as it doesn't include funding for the wall. The Democrats have long supported improving border security and there's no problem with obtaining the additional funding as long as it's not being wasted for political purposes on more "Walls" (and fencing).

I'm not a Democrat and I'd make the following compromise proposal that Democrats would probably support.

Authorize the additional funding but tie it to the Trump Administration full compliance with the Refugee Asylum Act of 1980 (as amended) and in compliance with the Asylum provisions of Section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

Current situation:

Currently there are slightly more than 5,000 refugees that are waiting at a US Port of Entry to be allowed to apply for Asylum. These refugees are waiting because the Trump Administration refuses to allow them to apply for asylum upon arrival in compliance with our laws. Instead the government is "metering" (dramatically restricting) the number that can apply to prevent them from lawfully entering the United States.

Additionally there are tens of thousands, including over 15,000 children, refugees that have applied for or are entitled to apply for asylum within the United States that are wrongfully being incarcerated in detention centers (prisons).

The only justification of incarceration is if the person represents a creditable threat to the people or national security of the United States or if they represent a risk of flight.

My Proposal:

1. Trump must restore the Obama Administration's use of case workers for those seeking asylum. This was a fix for the "catch and release" policy that worked because it resulted in over 99% of asylum seekers reporting to their immigration court hearings. We can eliminate the "risk of flight" that wasn't really a risk. The problem was the asylum seeker often moved in the years it took before their hearing came up and they didn't know that they were supposed to appear.

2. Release all of the refugees that have applied for asylum that are currently being detained without a court order, based upon evidence the person represents a threat, authorizing their detention.


These two steps must be taken before one dime of money is the be released for Trump's Wall.

3. the Trump administration must expeditiously begin processing refugee applications for asylum. For every 1,000 refugee applications that are processed within the next 30 days a billion dollars will be released to the executive branch for Trump's wall over the next twelve months. Trump will be able to set the actual amount of funding by how many refugees waiting at the border are allowed to apply (in compliance with our law) over the next 30 days.

4. Trump created the backlog so let Trump fix the backlog. Following the 30 days the Trump Administration will be required to allow refugee seeking asylum to apply within two weeks of arrival at a port of entry. If more than 100 cases aren't allowed then the funding will be frozen until the Administration catches up. Trump will be able to determine if the funding is released on a monthly basis or if it's frozen where he can't use it.

5. The Trump Administration will end the policy of refugee detention without a court order for more than five days. Failure to do so voids the provisions for funding and ends the spending.

6. Provide protection and a pathway for citizenship for all of those currently eligible under DACA.

This is what a compromise looks like.

I think Democrats would go for that one.
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