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And now, discipling your child for misbehavior is 'cruelty'.

I feel the Assemblyman handled this fairly well, and a lot calmer than I would have.

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“I disciplined her as a consequence to something she did. This is something that’s really rare for us. It’s a tool of last resort but it’s something that we do. And I spanked her bottom,” he explained. “She was pretty upset, and she struggled to be able to share her emotions, as I’m sure you can appreciate a 7-year-old will. But that’s all that happened.”

Joaquin Arambula was arrested Monday on suspicion of child cruelty. (Photo: Fresno Police Department)
Still, Arambula was arrested on Monday night and accused of willful cruelty to a child. As of Wednesday, CPS and the Department of Social Services declared Arambula and his wife, Elizabeth, fit to bring their three children — aged 3, 6 and 7 — who had been staying with Arambula’s parents, back home.
“It was us disciplining — normal discipline to our child,” Arambula said. “And I’m in the midst of a process that is playing out as we speak.”
The Fresno Bee additionally reports, “Arambula thanked his daughter’s teacher, Fresno police and Child Protective Services for ‘doing their jobs’ and ‘following the process.’” Family psychologist Barbara Greenberg tells Yahoo Lifestyle that the incident was “handled beautifully.”
“Anything that hurts a child physically and emotionally, in my opinion, is abuse and should be reported,” Greenberg says. “Too often kids go to school looking for help and they’re not taken seriously. The school took this very seriously, as they should, and they did what they were supposed to do.”
As for the assemblyman’s actions, however, Greenberg says, “Nothing good comes from [spanking].”
“There are much, much better ways to teach your children, and losing control and putting your hands on a child, there’s nothing good that comes from it,” she says. “You don’t create kids with self-esteem and with the ability to handle frustration by spanking them.”
Arambula told the publication that he has no plans to resign. If convicted, the assemblyman could face up to six months in jail and possible probation.
Greenberg should be subject to 6 months lock up with three of her subjects of non-discipline.

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And now, discipling your child for misbehavior is 'cruelty'.

I feel the Assemblyman handled this fairly well, and a lot calmer than I would have.



Greenberg should be subject to 6 months lock up with three of her subjects of non-discipline.

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That teacher wasn't there and had NO RIGHT to say the Father lost his temper, the proper way to spank is NOT to do it when you've lost your temper
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...“Nothing good comes from [spanking].”
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And now, discipling your child for misbehavior is 'cruelty'.

I feel the Assemblyman handled this fairly well, and a lot calmer than I would have.



Greenberg should be subject to 6 months lock up with three of her subjects of non-discipline.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cali...232402437.html
yeah different strokes [pun right?] for different folks and states. In Florida he would face even more jail time. In Tennessee he could wail the hell out of her in a downtown MacDonald's and nobody blinks an eye.
I don't want federal guidelines on spanking
I hope he gets off Scott free.
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That teacher wasn't there and had NO RIGHT to say the Father lost his temper, the proper way to spank is NOT to do it when you've lost your temper
Your children are expert at pushing your buttons to test the boundaries of acceptable behavior. They are children so reason frequently doesn't work. Just like an overly permissive environment is bad for the children's development so too is excessive discipline like spanking. Critics of a highly effective child rearing tool just leap to extremes in an attempt to discredit it.
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A lot of people are jumping to conclusions here without the full picture. I don’t know what happened, but this sure sounds like more than just a simple “spanking.”

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Though Arambula said he only spanked his daughter on the buttocks, Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer told CBS News "the injury in this case is not on the buttocks."
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A lot of people are jumping to conclusions here without the full picture. I don’t know what happened, but this sure sounds like more than just a simple “spanking.”



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The police chief needs to shut up, go chew a prune, and leave the public out of trying this case, like it says in the link.
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A lot of people are jumping to conclusions here without the full picture. I don’t know what happened, but this sure sounds like more than just a simple “spanking.”



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Agreed...It's unclear...

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After school administrators noticed an injury on the young girl’s body they reportedly called Child Protective Services, which briefly removed three of Arambula’s children from his home shortly after.
If they "noticed an injury", I doubt they were doing butt-checks...That injury would have to be visible...unless the "injury" was the girl having a problem walking or sitting...
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Also if they start flailing around and kicking you in the middle of a spanking you ,you can inadvertently bruise a child somewhere or they can hurt themselves accidentally.
The child waking up angry (mother's words) makes me wonder. If a child is abused usually they are scared not angry.
Just some observations.
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And no further explanation is given regarding what type,or where the 'injury' is.

While there is a fine line between discipline and abuse, as AZ noted, children will push the lines and need to be reminded what they are. Not all children understand reasoning, that is why they are children.
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