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Old 12-14-2018, 10:27 AM
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because he didn't funnel money through them for illegal funds
Never heard of in kind donations?

That the liberal 'powers that be' at NBC made a decision to not report anything about Fast and Furious was as much an overt act as the McDougal catch and kill at the National Enquirer.
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:35 AM
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Any funds used to pay off his mistresses in order to benefit his campaign became, by definition, “campaign money.” The source of the funds is irrelevant. It’s the use of the funds that brings it within the scope of campaign finance laws. And, Giuliani, Cohen and AMI have all acknowledged that the purpose of these payoffs was to benefit the Trump campaign.
As long as a plausible argument can be made that the payoffs were done to protect his personal interests -- his relationship with his wife and kids and/or to protect his marketable "brand"-- the case is weak that it was a campaign expenditure.

Would he have done what he did if he wasn't a candidate? The whole "illegal campaign money" argument fails as long as the answer to that question is yes.
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As long as a plausible argument can be made that the payoffs were done to protect his personal interests -- his relationship with his wife and kids and/or to protect his marketable "brand"-- the case is weak that it was a campaign expenditure.

Would he have done what he did if he wasn't a candidate? The whole "illegal campaign money" argument fails as long as the answer to that question is yes.
Daniels had been telling people about this story for years. She gave an interview to a magazine in 2011 about sleeping with Trump. If he did this to protect his family, he almost certainly wouldn’t have waited until the election in 2016 to pay her off.
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Waiting to see the 'proof' That Trump requested/required this.
Has a lib on the forum thrown up proof yet?
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huh. no interest from the right when there's evidence criminalizing their cough syrup drummer.
So what? Since when is Trump responsible for what someone else does?
Duh!
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The Left wants to make 'breathing' a crime.
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No he won't....

Donald lies about everything that might make him look bad....

That is his SOP....
I didn't say Trump would actually say it. He would own it.
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I didn't say Trump would actually say it. He would own it.
Has Donald ever "owned" anything negative.....?

Hell, he doesn't even pray for forgiveness because he doesn't think he needs any.....
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Never heard of in kind donations?

That the liberal 'powers that be' at NBC made a decision to not report anything about Fast and Furious was as much an overt act as the McDougal catch and kill at the National Enquirer.
I don't wanna disrupt this thread with someone who has no idea what fast and furious was and zero interest in researching. besides I have explained it many times on this forum.


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I don't wanna disrupt this thread with someone who has no idea what fast and furious was and zero interest in researching.
I Know it wasn't a continuation of any Bush era "Gunrunner" operation.

I know it wasn't a botched law-enforcement operation run by a couple rogue ATF agents out of Phoenix Group VII.

I know Fast and Furious was begun in September of 2009 and was engineered at the highest levels of the DOJ and required clearance and coordination from its inception at the highest levels of the Executive branch. I know this because Fast and Furious involved the re-assignment of State Department jurisdiction over ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) to DOJ/ATF and only the President can do that. Problem is, ATF were/are woefully incapable of investigating Title 22 crimes and not authorized to work outside the USA to investigate Title 22 crimes.

Because ATF were utterly incapable of investigating Title 22 crimes I know Fast and Furious never had any real "law enforcement" objective. It was half of a double bladed sword being wielded by the Obama administration; NSC/DoJ/ATF/FBI were arming the Sinaloas through Fast and Furious and the State Department was arming the Zeta's though diversions of direct sales of AR's to the Mexican government.

Nobody has questioned why State suddenly increased the number of direct sales of AR's ten-fold from Bush era (to nearly 20,000 in 2009) when the State Dept's own audits showed a 26% diversion rate to the cartels . . . which in Mexico would be the Zeta's, made up of former police and military and the on again, off again enemy of the Sinaloa's. What could be better than a little war between the cartels using US sourced guns????

So I know known gun traffickers were permitted to transfer nearly 2000 guns to narco-terrorist smugglers with no further investigation / interdiction beyond putting push-pins on a map where murders attached to F&F guns occurred. I know the sole intent of Fast and Furious (and the increase in direct sales) was to have AR's, AK's and .50 caliber sniper rifles turn up at crime scenes on both sides of the border.

I know this operation was not flawed, it didn't go awry, it worked to perfection and the unavoidable multiple instances of criminal misuse (AKA murder and mayhem) that the operation was created to achieve, was used to argue for new gun control policy initiatives in the USA.

I know that DoJ misrepresented the facts in every correspondence with Congressional Oversight, with the most egregious being the Feb 4, 2011 letter to Grassley, denying that ATF “sanctioned or otherwise knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchaser who then transported them into Mexico”, which stood as the official DOJ position until retracted 10 months later as the cover-up unwound.

No, I haven't done any research.

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besides I have explained it many times on this forum.
I can only imagine the depths of your explanation since I expect your "research" begins and ends with the Fast and Furious article on Wikipedia.

You want to save me some time searching and link me to a post or thread here where your supposed exceptional explanation of F&F is on display? FYI, I'm expecting commentary that goes deeper than copy-n-paste from Wikipedia or a one-line snarky dig on someone.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem looking myself and I'm starting as soon as this post goes up. I'm not adverse to resurrecting a Lazarus thread, in fact they can be fun . . .

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No similarity whatsoever Hauled complete out of a dark orifice
I wouldn't expect you to say anything else -- or to offer any justification for your feelings . . . NOP.
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