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saltwn 12-09-2018 09:17 PM

Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Here's some real news:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b04046345bcbbd

I guess tain't is out of vogue this holiday season. :christmas

saltwn 12-09-2018 09:32 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Trump tweets he has several other options for chief of staff ó but those people donít want it either

What'd I say? What'd I just say? :rofl2

wait...that means we will again get the lowest of the low and the stupidest again. :slapme

Manitou 12-09-2018 10:19 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 955773)
i guess tain't is out of vogue this holiday season. :christmas



Wtf?

CindyB 12-10-2018 03:19 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
None of them want to go through all the hassle that the stupid Democrats put them through. Democrats are the rottenest, meanest people on Earth.

Manitou 12-10-2018 03:23 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CindyB (Post 955837)
None of them want to go through all the hassle that the stupid Democrats put them through. Democrats are the rottenest, meanest people on Earth.


Whom the gods would destroy, they first make Democrat.

saltwn 12-10-2018 06:01 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CindyB (Post 955837)
None of them want to go through all the hassle that the stupid Democrats put them through. Democrats are the rottenest, meanest people on Earth.

Do you hit your head with a hammer before you post?

CindyB 12-10-2018 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 955853)
Do you hit your head with a hammer before you post?

Go lay down Salty, it's getting to that time.

FrancSevin 12-10-2018 07:02 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
The Presidency requires a lot of expertise, from a lot of people. Trump will go through a lot of people to meet the goals he has set. Just as he would in business.

Nick Ayers didn't just refuse THE Donald, he also retired from VP Pence. He wants to spend time with the youngsters in his family. He was a good choice for President Trump who needs a political expert to prepare in the next two years for 2020. Simply not available.

John Kelly was good for clearing the chaff from the White house staff and getting things organized. That's what military guys are good at. But he is not a politician. Trump needs an experienced politician who has a history of success. So he is looking for the right person. A rare person.

I guarantee he will find one the Dems won't like. That'd be qualification enough for me. But Trump will go one better and pick a winner.:thumbsup

saltwn 12-10-2018 09:13 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 955862)
The Presidency requires a lot of expertise, from a lot of people. Trump will go through a lot of people to meet the goals he has set. Just as he would in business.

Nick Ayers didn't just refuse THE Donald, he also retired from VP Pence. He wants to spend time with the youngsters in his family. He was a good choice for President Trump who needs a political expert to prepare in the next two years for 2020. Simply not available.

John Kelly was good for clearing the chaff from the White house staff and getting things organized. That's what military guys are good at. But he is not a politician. Trump needs an experienced politician who has a history of success. So he is looking for the right person. A rare person.

I guarantee he will find one the Dems won't like. That'd be qualification enough for me. But Trump will go one better and pick a winner.:thumbsup

Twitter Users Troll Trump With Chief Of Staff Suggestions:

Ayers on Sunday tweeted:

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Thank you @realDonaldTrump, @VP, and my great colleagues for the honor to serve our Nation at The White House. I will be departing at the end of the year but will work with the #MAGA team to advance the cause. 🇺🇸 #Georgia
Trump then sent out :

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I am in the process of interviewing some really great people for the position of White House Chief of Staff. Fake News has been saying with certainty it was Nick Ayers, a spectacular person who will always be with our #MAGA agenda. I will be making a decision soon!
Twitterers attempted to explain why Ayers doesnít want the job and even offered some suggestions on who might be next in line ..these are all real tweets:

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How about who ever hosts the Oscars must also be Trumpís Chief of Staff?
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BREAKING: Nick Ayers not taking job as White House chief of staff. Ayers said he wants to spend more time with his family and less time in prison
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Gee, wonder why no one seems to want what is typically considered the most powerful job in the White House? No one wants to buy tickets on the Titanic after youíve seen the movie. https://t.co/9JT3xVxjFu
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As tempting as federal prison sounds, I think Iím good.
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Get Mikey! He'll do anything!
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I bet Chris Christy has called, emailed, faxíd, carrier pigeon, note tied to a rock and even sent smoke signals...? Hahahahaha
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We need immigrants for jobs Americans wonít do. #MAGA #ChiefOfStaff

saltwn 12-10-2018 09:18 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
then there's this :p

Anthony Scaramucci says Trump needs someone as the chief of staff who Ďdoesnít careí and Ďdoesnít need the jobí

FrancSevin 12-10-2018 09:37 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Posting snarky conversations from twitter( without names attached) has nothing to do with what I said. But then perhaps you do not understand what I said so you resort to pettifog and diffusion.


Trump has no problem getting people to staff his team. Whether in business or the oval Office, never has. The reported infighting came from the fake news media who know well people like you don't understand how, under the right leadership, tension works in a management team. The problem is getting the right people for the task now at hand. And once the task is accomplished you move on. With the current team, if they can handle the new challenges, or with replacements if they cannot.

Your problem is understanding how that works in the real world and why it often means turnover.

FrancSevin 12-10-2018 10:03 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Did you even read the article Salty??? I doubt it. Certainly you didn't understand what the Mooch said but took out of context your headline

The Mooch said it plainly. .... He went on to claim that people are not afraid to be honest with Trump... and those, like Ivanka and Jared Kushner, tell the President the truth whether he likes it or not.
The President need somebody that is not going to alter their behavior when he ( the president) enters the room" he continued, "the President needs somebody that does not need the job, that doesn't care,... loves the Country, Loves him and likes him and wants to do a good job."


Your quotation purported a fraud. Color me Surprised.

As I said several times Trump needs a turnover from Kelly who disciplined and organized the Staff, just as he no longer needed Rence Priebus who was basically the matchmaker glue putting the GOP together with THE Donald and gave him advice on political strategies as well. He also was replaced when that was done.

It is a lot like putting up a building. The General Contractor hires a team to excavate and lay a foundation. Separate teams of steel guys put up the structure and carpenters and others do the finish. You don't put in lights and marble floors with bulldozer crews. Nor do you keep them on the payroll when their task is completed.

CindyB 12-10-2018 10:06 PM

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That's all they got Franc, random haters on Twitter.

saltwn 12-10-2018 10:21 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 955868)
Posting snarky conversations from twitter( without names attached) has nothing to do with what I said. But then perhaps you do not understand what I said so you resort to pettifog and diffusion.


Trump has no problem getting people to staff his team. Whether in business or the oval Office, never has. The reported infighting came from the fake news media who know well people like you don't understand how, under the right leadership, tension works in a management team. The problem is getting the right people for the task now at hand. And once the task is accomplished you move on. With the current team, if they can handle the new challenges, or with replacements if they cannot.

Your problem is understanding how that works in the real world and why it often means turnover.

maybe you are projecting your own work ethics and mechanisms onto trump.
you give him too much credit.

saltwn 12-10-2018 10:22 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 955870)
Did you even read the article Salty??? I doubt it. Certainly you didn't understand what the Mooch said but took out of context your headline

The Mooch said it plainly. .... He went on to claim that people are not afraid to be honest with Trump... and those, like Ivanka and Jared Kushner, tell the President the truth whether he likes it or not.
The President need somebody that is not going to alter their behavior when he ( the president) enters the room" he continued, "the President needs somebody that does not need the job, that doesn't care,... loves the Country, Loves him and likes him and wants to do a good job."


Your quotation purported a fraud. Color me Surprised.

As I said several times Trump needs a turnover from Kelly who disciplined and organized the Staff, just as he no longer needed Rence Priebus who was basically the matchmaker glue putting the GOP together with THE Donald and gave him advice on political strategies as well. He also was replaced when that was done.

It is a lot like putting up a building. The General Contractor hires a team to excavate and lay a foundation. Separate teams of steel guys put up the structure and carpenters and others do the finish. You don't put in lights and marble floors with bulldozer crews. Nor do you keep them on the payroll when their task is completed.

yes but the headline was funny and true.

saltwn 12-10-2018 10:23 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by CindyB (Post 955871)
That's all they got Franc, random haters on Twitter.

to think I had to click extra and this is all you said. you disappoint me, cind :(

:D

FrancSevin 12-10-2018 11:07 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 955876)
yes but the headline was funny and true.


No, it was incomplete; Quoted out of context, Thereby making it misleading.

What I quoted is the complete statement which completely reverses what your "caption" implied.

Further the case I was making about Trump's methodology is exactly what Scaramucci explained whilst on FOX last night. At which time he also said the exact same words about who should fill the spot.

Note, the same said Scaramucci you quoted. The exact same Scaramouchi who was removed from the Trump team early on and, contrary to the MSM reports, holds no grudge or ill will towards the President over it.

saltwn 12-10-2018 11:47 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 955893)
No, it was incomplete; Quoted out of context, Thereby making it misleading.

....

ooh, bet you never heard anything like that before! :eek
As a foxnews watcher, I would have thought you'd be more comfortable with quoting out of context. after all, they did it for years to Obama and you lapped it up like it was nectar from the gods! :thumbsup

CindyB 12-11-2018 02:04 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 955896)
ooh, bet you never heard anything like that before! :eek
As a foxnews watcher, I would have thought you'd be more comfortable with quoting out of context. after all, they did it for years to Obama and you lapped it up like it was nectar from the gods! :thumbsup

Proved wrong so you deflect. Typical for Salty

FrancSevin 12-11-2018 06:28 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 955896)
ooh, bet you never heard anything like that before! :eek
As a foxnews watcher, I would have thought you'd be more comfortable with quoting out of context. after all, they did it for years to Obama and you lapped it up like it was nectar from the gods! :thumbsup

Fox never treated Obama the way CNN, MSNBC, Public Radio and YOU have demonized the President. Their criticism, and mine, of President Obama was never exhibited as personal attacks but criticism of policies.

I'll take the nectar of respectful disagreement over the witch's brew you consume and post here anytime I can.

Constant_Slothrop 12-11-2018 08:45 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 955964)
Fox never treated Obama the way CNN, MSNBC, Public Radio and YOU have demonized the President. Their criticism, and mine, of President Obama was never exhibited as personal attacks but criticism of policies.

I'll take the nectar of respectful disagreement over the witch's brew you consume and post here anytime I can.

Probably because, regardless of what one thought of his policies, any reasonable person recognized that Obama was a decent human being. Trump is clearly not.

saltwn 12-11-2018 10:53 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 955964)
Fox never treated Obama the way CNN, MSNBC, Public Radio and YOU have demonized the President. Their criticism, and mine, of President Obama was never exhibited as personal attacks but criticism of policies.

I'll take the nectar of respectful disagreement over the witch's brew you consume and post here anytime I can.

:rofl2
You are so cute when you make shLt up. :rofl

GetAClue 12-12-2018 06:20 AM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 955967)
Probably because, regardless of what one thought of his policies, any reasonable person recognized that Obama was a decent human being. Trump is clearly not.

I'm sorry, but I saw Obama as a self important narcissist with an ego big enough to fill a stadium, but not with the intelligence to navigate a phone booth. I also saw his "compassion" for only those with whom agreed with him. All in all, not a lot different from Trump other than the sense to not be crude and vulgar as Trump is.

The major difference between Obama and Trump as far as I am concerned is their policies. I agree with Trumps and disagreed with Obama's. But I would not enjoy having either of them over for dinner.

Hairy Jello 12-12-2018 06:52 AM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 955853)
Do you hit your head with a hammer before you post?

Ya wanna know what I do before I log in and post?

ShivaTD 12-12-2018 07:07 AM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by CindyB (Post 955837)
None of them want to go through all the hassle that the stupid Democrats put them through. Democrats are the rottenest, meanest people on Earth.

What hassle is that? The White House Chief of Staff isn't even a Senate approved position for the president. Trump can appoint Vladimir Putin as his White House Chief of Staff if he wants to or he that homeless veteran at the market with the "Will work for food" cardboard sign and the Democrats can't hassle him at all.

What Trump really faces is the almost impossible task of finding anyone that's qualified to be Chief of Staff that's willing to take the job because Trump doesn't really want a Chief of Staff. Trump is a control freak that doesn't delegate authority and the Chief of Staff needs the authority to carry out the duties of that position. Having Chief of Staff for President Trump on your resume is basically a career ending move. That's why Nick Ayers, a young upcoming professional in politics with great future prospects, doesn't want the position.

None of this has anything to do with the Democrats. This has everything to do with Donald Trump.

Constant_Slothrop 12-12-2018 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 955981)
I'm sorry, but I saw Obama as a self important narcissist with an ego big enough to fill a stadium, but not with the intelligence to navigate a phone booth.

I think the phrase you were looking for here was ďuppity negro,Ē or something similar.

AZRWinger 12-12-2018 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 955991)
I think the phrase you were looking for here was ďuppity negro,Ē or something similar.

There you go, the universal defense of Obama's incompetence, accuse the critic of racism. :rolls

Having supported Obama's campaign reliant on the simplistic slogan of "change" and the ill understood "fundamental transformation" the desire to avoid admitting the mistake by attacking anyone who points out his failure as racist is understandable. :thumbsup

ShivaTD 12-12-2018 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 955964)
Fox never treated Obama the way CNN, MSNBC, Public Radio and YOU have demonized the President. Their criticism, and mine, of President Obama was never exhibited as personal attacks but criticism of policies.

You're talking about the liberal media that was so politically correct that it didn't call Trump a bald-faced-liar for over a year while Trump was expanding what people were willing to accept as far as lies from a politician.

I rarely miss the Morning Joe show with Republican hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski or the afternoon show Deadline White House with Republican host Nicole Wallace on MSNBC. Yes, I also watch the Rachel Maddow Show because she's a great analyst with extensive historical knowledge.

Never once have I heard them personally attack President Trump although they have pointed out some of his behavioral traits like his five-year-old tantrum yesterday when meeting with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer preventing a government shutdown. Pelosi and Schumer have two legislative options with enough bipartisan support in Congress to avoid a shutdown after next Friday. Trump doesn't have enough votes to get his way ($5 billion for the border wall) in either the House or Senate.

During his temper tantrum Pelosi and Schumer played Trump like a fiddle in getting Trump to "own" a government shutdown at the end of next week if he doesn't get his border wall, a position that only 36% of American voters agree with.

But that wasn't the news media attacking Trump personally. That was the news media pointing out that Trump acts like an immature child on national television. The news media didn't have to even say anything. All they had to do was air the recording.

Constant_Slothrop 12-12-2018 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 955992)
There you go, the universal defense of Obama's incompetence, accuse the critic of racism. :rolls

Having supported Obama's campaign reliant on the simplistic slogan of "change" and the ill understood "fundamental transformation" the desire to avoid admitting the mistake by attacking anyone who points out his failure as racist is understandable. :thumbsup

The comment had nothing to do with Obamaís policies. It was about his character. Iím sorry, but if you look at the current occupant of the White House and then start complaining that Obama was a narcissistic idiot, then I have no choice but to assume that your opinion reflects some form of conscious or unconscious bias.

CindyB 12-12-2018 03:30 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 955971)
:rofl2
You are so cute when you make shLt up. :rofl

Put your money where your mouth is, post some links proving your point.
You can't because it's YOU that is making shlt up.

CindyB 12-12-2018 03:33 PM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 956000)
The comment had nothing to do with Obamaís policies. It was about his character. Iím sorry, but if you look at the current occupant of the White House and then start complaining that Obama was a narcissistic idiot, then I have no choice but to assume that your opinion reflects some form of conscious or unconscious bias.

President Trump has, FOR SURE, done a much better job for America than Obama EVER did.

GetAClue 12-14-2018 07:01 AM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
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Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 955991)
I think the phrase you were looking for here was ďuppity negro,Ē or something similar.

How closed minded a person are you? Just because you see everything through a racial lenses does not make it accurate to project that mental defect upon others, specifically me. You have just shown yourself to be the bigot that you would attempt to accuse others of being.

Go away troll.

GetAClue 12-14-2018 07:04 AM

Re: Nick Ayers Declined Trumpís Offer To Replace John Kelly As Chief Of Staff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 956000)
The comment had nothing to do with Obamaís policies. It was about his character. Iím sorry, but if you look at the current occupant of the White House and then start complaining that Obama was a narcissistic idiot, then I have no choice but to assume that your opinion reflects some form of conscious or unconscious bias.

Apparently, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You may want to re-read my original post that you commented on where I said that

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All in all, not a lot different from Trump other than the sense to not be crude and vulgar as Trump is.
In that statement, I actually gave Obama credit for having the sense not to be as crude and vulgar as Trump.

Sorry, but your post failed on a number of counts. Don't project your racism on me.


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