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All talk 'bout the horde of illegals here.

Let's kick it off with this story. I'm shocked; shocked I tell you! MSNBC, CNN and the rest of the MSM assured us the horde were mostly innocent women and children with baby strollers. How could this be?!

Migrant caravan at US border is harboring more than 500 criminals, Homeland Security claims

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More than 500 criminals are traveling with the migrant caravan thatís massed on the other side of a San Diego border crossing, homeland security officials said Monday afternoon.

The revelation was made during a conference call with reporters, with officials asserting that "most of the caravan members are not women and children". They claimed the group is mostly made up of single adult or teen males and that the women and children have been pushed to the front of the line in a bid to garner sympathetic media coverage.
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Not a bad idea until we can figure out what to do with these illegals.

Trump threatens to shut down 'whole border' with Mexico if immigration becomes 'uncontrollable'

While Thanksgiving normally signals the start of what is known as the Giving Season, President Trump didnít appear to be in a giving mood when it comes to immigration.

Speaking to reporters while in Florida for the holiday, Trump threatened to close the U.S. border with Mexico for an undisclosed period of time if his administration determines that its southern ally has lost "control" on its side.


Trump also said he has given the thousands of active-duty troops he sent to the border before the Nov. 6 midterm elections the "OK" to use lethal force against migrants "if they have to." And he said Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, whom he has faulted for not being tough enough on immigration, is "in there trying."

"It's a tough job," he said.

"The caravans will not be permitted to enter the United States," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday. "There are real dangers to the safety and human rights of migrants from those who would prey on them."

Trump's border threat came days after a federal judge put the administration's asylum policy on hold. Under that new policy, Trump declared no one could apply for asylum except at an official border entry point. Some ports of entry are already facing huge backups, with people waiting for weeks.

The U.S. government shut down one port of entry, San Ysidro, in California, for several hours early Monday morning to bolster security amid concerns about a potential influx of migrant caravan members. Most of the lanes were reopened before the morning rush.

Trump repeated Nielsen's claim, made earlier this week when she visited a San Diego Pacific Coast beach to see newly installed razor wire wrapped around a towering border wall that cuts across the sand, that there were as many as 500 criminals and gang members in the group heading northward. Nielsen refused to answer questions about how they were identified or what crimes they had committed.

Trump asserted that there are "fistfights all over the streets" in Tijuana, Mexico, and that "these are not like normal, innocent people."

"These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight," he said. "I don't want that in this country."

The people of Tijuana "opened up with wide arms" to welcome the caravan, Trump said, and "now they're going crazy to get them out ... because bad things are happening."

In the past week, city officials have arrested three dozen caravan members for drug possession, public intoxication, disturbing the peace and resisting police, and said they would be deported to their home countries. Many also say the actions of a few are tarnishing the image of the roughly 4,000 migrants who are camped in Tijuana.

While authorizing the military's use of lethal force along the border, Trump said, "I hope they don't have to," adding that he would not let "the military be taken advantage of. I have no choice."

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Wednesday that the White House had given him explicit authority to use military troops to protect Customs and Border Protection personnel at the southwest border, with lethal force if necessary. But he was adamant the military would remain within its legal limits.

The law prohibits the federal government from using the armed forces in a domestic police role, except in cases and under circumstances authorized explicitly by the Constitution or Congress. Generally, U.S. troops are authorized to use force in self-defense.

Trump said that if U.S. officials "find that it's uncontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."

In that case, Mexico would take an economic hit, he said, citing an inability to ship cars into the U.S. for sale.

"We're either going to have a border or we're not," Trump said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Hopefully this deal pushes through. Would be a huge step forward to get this horde into the country legally.

Trump administration makes tentative deal to force asylum-seekers to wait in Mexico: reports
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Any guesses on how many of those poor, downtrodden, picked on refugees would gladly stay in their own country if America sent them welfare checks and food stamps and medical care where they lived?
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Some crazy sh*t. Glad she survived and her kids are ok.
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Looks like the Mexican government denies the claim.

Incoming Mexican government disputes report of tentative deal with US on asylum-seekers
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And let's hear what a retired general has to say 'bout Trump sendin' troops to defend our border against the horde of illegals and criminals.

Say what ya want but I take the opinion of a general more seriously than the baboons at CNN and MSNBC.

The highlighted red pretty much sums up everything ya need to know 'bout how libs feel 'bout Trump and why they can't be taken seriously.

'Liberals Don't Understand the History': Gen. Tata Defends Decision to Send Troops to Border

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Retired Brigadier Gen. Anthony Tata said Sunday on Fox & Friends that he believes President Trump made the right call to deploy U.S. troops to the Mexican border.

He said that the left has a negative "immediate visceral reaction" to any action taken by the president.

"Liberals today don't understand the history," Tata said. "What President Trump has done is rightfully reinforce the border in the face of an unprecedented threat."

Gen. Tata called the decision to have troops at the border an "unprecedented move" and called a prospective deal between the incoming Mexican government and the U.S. "groundbreaking."
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Operative word, tentative. The last time a president acted on tentative, Iran got a few billion in unmarked bills. We got nothing.

Hopefully the new sheriff was listening.
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And let's hear what a retired general has to say 'bout Trump sendin' troops to defend our border against the horde of illegals and criminals.
They supposedly are unarmed. With what are they going to defend the border? Anybody know?
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They supposedly are unarmed. With what are they going to defend the border? Anybody know?
MSNBC told me that it's just innocent women and children with baby strollers.
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