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No, but, getting back to your recent nonsensical post about Trump being the most pro-Jewish President in recent memory, can you point me to the time that Obama said that some “very fine people” participated in a demonstration chanting “Jews will not replace us”?
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What you are citing isn't on the right. Many people confuse things, but a statist philosophy is inevitably left wing.
soo Ronald Reagan's white house right hand man, speech writer and long time republican Pat Buchanon is on the left?
Republican Joseph McCarthy was a LEFTIST?
Dem turned Republican Strom Thurmond was a LEFTIST?
the hardcore fundamentalist Bible teaching Bob Jones and Bob Jones University is leftist in philosophy?
Former klan leader holocaust denier and often Republican candidate is a leftist?
C'mon Lobo be honest man.
modern “conservatives” and “right wingers” have among their ranks many prominent and well known “statist and racist and even imperialist, if you start talking about Dick Chenney, Bill Krystal and the like.
in general Conservatism is “a political doctrine that emphasizes the value of traditional institutions and practices.”
Historically and generally speaking Conservatism can and has even favored monarchy. Since it's a traditional form of gov’t..

And all the examples i gave of totalitarian actions and policies are those that people who call themselves conservatives have defended AS conservative principals.
the gov't's and police overreach is defended not on constitutional grounds… because it can't stand there…. but on the so-called conservative view of gov'ts “primary job” being PROTECTING the people.... rather than the philosophically libertarian or ‘classical’ liberal Idea of the gov't protecting 1st people FREEDOMS.

Totalitarian, imperialist views and laws have sprung from many conservatives, over the past 20 years especially.

If you want to say that what the republican party and it's voters have been doing for many years is NOT real conservatism, I'd agree. What the Republican party now represents IS a form of Statism… and Imperialism if you include the Neo-Cons.
Giving fat cats and big biz tax breaks doesn’t mean the republicans aren’t Statist. Many of the laws made are bought and paid for by big biz for big biz. the State generally protects the rights of the corps over the rights of the individuals and small biz.. the State’s reaching into people’s homes more and more by BI-Partisan design. State controls the drugs we CAN and MUST take. The use of the land we own. And as i mentioned in the previous post republicans revere the state in the form of it’s military and police. Which the right chides anyone for even questioning.
And as a point of history
‘classical liberalism’ as outlined by John Locke upholds the sanctity of private property, self-ownership, minimal government, and the innate distrust of the use of power.

these are idea that current conservatives SAY they believe in but Libertarians are closer to embracing.
while contemporary liberals and conservatives practically speaking lean more toward various type of state control and surveillance over aspects of everyones personal, social and business lives.

Just because you SAY conservatism philosophically is good and liberalism is the only side that represents totalitarianism it just aint so. Both terms have positive philosophical meanings that DON’T mean totalitarianism. But the practical actions of BOTH sides have moved them towards it.
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Right here...

Hey, sometimes when you’re a celebrity, you have no choice but to be photographed standing next to some psychopath.


I mean, what was OJ supposed to do, refuse to have his picture taken with Trump?
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Hey, sometimes when you’re a celebrity, you have no choice but to be photographed standing next to some psychopath.


I mean, what was OJ supposed to do, refuse to have his picture taken with Trump?
If you don't know the difference between someone taking a photo standing next to someone BEFORE they've been exposed as a psychopath and someone taking a photo standing next to someone AFTER they've been exposed as a psychopath, then I can't help ya...
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If you don't know the difference between someone taking a photo standing next to someone BEFORE they've been exposed as a psychopath and someone taking a photo standing next to someone AFTER they've been exposed as a psychopath, then I can't help ya...
Yes, you’re right. At this point in time, Trump was just a scumbag. He had not yet gone over the edge into psychopath territory. That came later.
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Yes, you’re right. At this point in time, Trump was just a scumbag. He had not yet gone over the edge into psychopath territory. That came later.


Ahhh yes, according to the whacked out, hate America, far Left; improving
the economy to the extent where everyone that WANTS a job can have one,
where wages have gone up more than they have in years, where Veterans
are getting much needed care, I can't even begin to list all that Trump has done for America, see this link https://www.promiseskept.com/
The Left considers all the above psychopathic.

DAMN, I'm glad I'm not a hater of America like the Leftists are.
Now the Left is slamming Trump for helping Black America, how low can they go?
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soo Ronald Reagan's white house right hand man, speech writer and long time republican Pat Buchanon is on the left?
Republican Joseph McCarthy was a LEFTIST?
Dem turned Republican Strom Thurmond was a LEFTIST?
the hardcore fundamentalist Bible teaching Bob Jones and Bob Jones University is leftist in philosophy?
Former klan leader holocaust denier and often Republican candidate is a leftist?
C'mon Lobo be honest man.
modern “conservatives” and “right wingers” have among their ranks many prominent and well known “statist and racist and even imperialist, if you start talking about Dick Chenney, Bill Krystal and the like.
in general Conservatism is “a political doctrine that emphasizes the value of traditional institutions and practices.”
Historically and generally speaking Conservatism can and has even favored monarchy. Since it's a traditional form of gov’t..

And all the examples i gave of totalitarian actions and policies are those that people who call themselves conservatives have defended AS conservative principals.
the gov't's and police overreach is defended not on constitutional grounds… because it can't stand there…. but on the so-called conservative view of gov'ts “primary job” being PROTECTING the people.... rather than the philosophically libertarian or ‘classical’ liberal Idea of the gov't protecting 1st people FREEDOMS.

Totalitarian, imperialist views and laws have sprung from many conservatives, over the past 20 years especially.

If you want to say that what the republican party and it's voters have been doing for many years is NOT real conservatism, I'd agree. What the Republican party now represents IS a form of Statism… and Imperialism if you include the Neo-Cons.
Giving fat cats and big biz tax breaks doesn’t mean the republicans aren’t Statist. Many of the laws made are bought and paid for by big biz for big biz. the State generally protects the rights of the corps over the rights of the individuals and small biz.. the State’s reaching into people’s homes more and more by BI-Partisan design. State controls the drugs we CAN and MUST take. The use of the land we own. And as i mentioned in the previous post republicans revere the state in the form of it’s military and police. Which the right chides anyone for even questioning.
And as a point of history
‘classical liberalism’ as outlined by John Locke upholds the sanctity of private property, self-ownership, minimal government, and the innate distrust of the use of power.

these are idea that current conservatives SAY they believe in but Libertarians are closer to embracing.
while contemporary liberals and conservatives practically speaking lean more toward various type of state control and surveillance over aspects of everyones personal, social and business lives.

Just because you SAY conservatism philosophically is good and liberalism is the only side that represents totalitarianism it just aint so. Both terms have positive philosophical meanings that DON’T mean totalitarianism. But the practical actions of BOTH sides have moved them towards it.
By definition, a conservative, or constitutionalist opposes large over controlling government. Yes, anyone who supports statism is on the left. Leftist philosophy including "compassionate conservatism" is nothing more than progressivism writ in a different script. There is, sorry, zero difference between those who call for a statist christian government and those who call for a secular statist government. It is the same monster and should be buried with a stake thru it's heart.
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As for Buchanon, sorry but he espouses statist philosophies. That, yes, makes him a leftist.
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