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Finally some reason during these crazy times. I know this will enrage the crazy left and the mentally ill who claim to be a different gender than their genitalia show, but this could lead to them to receiving helpful treatment for their problem instead of forcing society to cater to their illness. If someone claims to be Napoleon, his illness is treated, not catered to, and gender dysphoria should be treated no differently.

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The Trump administration is weighing a change that would require individuals to identify as male or female based on their genitalia at birth, tightening gender definitions that had offered more leeway to transgender and gender nonconforming individuals, The New York Times reported Sunday.

The Department of Health and Human Services proposed in a memo obtained by the news outlet that government agencies adopt a definition of gender that is determined "on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable."

The change would would base sex on the genitals a person is born with.

"The sex listed on a personís birth certificate, as originally issued, shall constitute definitive proof of a personís sex unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence," the memo states, according to the Times.
This is reasonable!

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...tion-of-gender
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Finally some reason during these crazy times. I know this will enrage the crazy left and the mentally ill who claim to be a different gender than their genitalia show, but this could lead to them to receiving helpful treatment for their problem instead of forcing society to cater to their illness. If someone claims to be Napoleon, his illness is treated, not catered to, and gender dysphoria should be treated no differently.

This is reasonable!

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...tion-of-gender
Clearly founded in science is that "sex" and "gender" are not the same thing.

From the American Psychological Association (APA):

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What is the difference between sex and gender?

Sex is assigned at birth, refers to one’s biological status as either male or female, and is associated primarily with physical attributes such as chromosomes, hormone prevalence, and external and internal anatomy.

Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviors, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for boys and men or girls and women. These influence the ways that people act, interact, and feel about themselves. While aspects of biological sex are similar across different cultures, aspects of gender may differ.
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx

Applying the definition of (biological) sex that's clearly not applicable when it comes to defining gender (identity) is either blatantly ignorant or it's nefarious and discriminatory in violation of the "Equal Protection Clause" of the US Constitution.

Gender identity is not a mental illness.
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I can hear the whining of snowflakes right now.
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I can hear the whining of snowflakes right now.
What you heard is science.
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Clearly founded in science is that "sex" and "gender" are not the same thing.

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https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx

Applying the definition of (biological) sex that's clearly not applicable when it comes to defining gender (identity) is either blatantly ignorant or it's nefarious and discriminatory in violation of the "Equal Protection Clause" of the US Constitution.

Gender identity is not a mental illness.
So setting aside comments by the poster... I assume you support this action?

Since nothing can be known about the "gender" as you define it of the individual at birth, doesn't it make sense to record the "(biological) sex" of the individual as a permanent record of fact? Much the same way you would record who their mother was, the date and time of birth, who the doctor was etc... None of that changes if at a later time the person is adopted, decides they identify as a three year old girl, or changes doctors.
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3 types of gender

Masculine gender

Feminine gender

Neuter Gender (no sexual organs )
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Gender identity is not a mental illness.



Gender is actually very ambiguous. You can say you are any gender you want to say you are, there is no real definition.

But if you have a penis, you cannot say that you are of the female sex. If you do, than you obviously have a mental issue.

Shiva, you said sex and gender are different, and you are right.

But the fact remains. A man with a penis can NOT say he is of the female sex. That is scientifically impossible.

This is why they have made up so many acronyms for a plethora of genders.

They are still trying to figure out who the hell they are. THAT is a friggin mental problem.
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3 types of gender

Masculine gender

Feminine gender

Neuter Gender (no sexual organs )
You omitted hermaphrodite, which has the genitalia of both sexes.
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You omitted hermaphrodite, which has the genitalia of both sexes.
Ok so that would be Multi gender maybe? So that would be 4. I think the LBGTQ is up to about 14 now. But those are all based on feelings.

Scientifically there can only be 4.
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It only makes sense that the left will defend mental illness such as gender dysphoria as modern liberalism is yet another mental disorder.
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