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A senator who votes no today will be labeled a RINO. It's clearer now that the Republican members of Congress are the RINO's, cowed and in support of The President who abhors the genius of a Separation of Powers; A President who seeks to protect himself when he pulls a Nixon, and "legally" fires those who are investigating him.

Trump seeks one party power! Those who support this not so well hidden agenda, are collaborates in what we are seeing happen today, a bloodless (at the moment) coup.

Be proud of yourselves, you've supported what our Founders feared. Let's not pretend you fellow travelers, who support Trump and vote for the current iteration of Republicans, are patriots. You are not! Your are at best fools and cowards!
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The end of Our Founding Father's Experiment will be hastened by allowing Democrats into power to drive the nation towards Socialism. Merely confirming a highly qualified judge to ascend to the highest court in the land only strengthens this Republic as was envisioned by our Founders. It's called "Adhering to the Constitution". I know that scares the crap out of Progressives.
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A senator who votes no today will be labeled a RINO. It's clearer now that the Republican members of Congress are the RINO's, cowed and in support of The President who abhors the genius of a Separation of Powers; A President who seeks to protect himself when he pulls a Nixon, and "legally" fires those who are investigating him.

Trump seeks one party power! Those who support this not so well hidden agenda, are collaborates in what we are seeing happen today, a bloodless (at the moment) coup.

Be proud of yourselves, you've supported what our Founders feared. Let's not pretend you fellow travelers, who support Trump and vote for the current iteration of Republicans, are patriots. You are not! Your are at best fools and cowards!
It could be said that everyone seeks one party power. Every democrat wants to stop every Republican and vise verse.

Also, all people protect themselves, if they didn't they would be an idiot.

P.S. the coup is coming from the left with their fascist tactics of intimidation of the people they don't like, and the stifling of free speech of those they do not agree with.

You have sunk into a pitiful pit of partisan rhetoric Mr. Catcher. When you first came on to PW you seemed like a reasonable guy that had liberal views, nothing wrong with that, but you have sunk down to a hateful, whining, uber partisan, that thinks he is a Patriot, and everyone that believes differently is a coward and fool.

Your credibility drops farther every day as your hate comes to the surface. But I know, in your twisted way, you are proud of that. keep up the good work.
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The end of Our Founding Father's Experiment will be hastened by allowing Democrats into power to drive the nation towards Socialism. Merely confirming a highly qualified judge to ascend to the highest court in the land only strengthens this Republic as was envisioned by our Founders. It's called "Adhering to the Constitution". I know that scares the crap out of Progressives.
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The end of Our Founding Father's Experiment will be hastened by allowing Democrats into power to drive the nation towards Socialism. Merely confirming a highly qualified judge to ascend to the highest court in the land only strengthens this Republic as was envisioned by our Founders. It's called "Adhering to the Constitution". I know that scares the crap out of Progressives.
My post is not about a political party, and your statement is IMO foolish.

Sen. McConnell's behavior has been legal, but has been entirely a classic use of nonfeasance, which bring us to today's vote. His call for the vote today, is also Constitutional, but it is also a repudiation of his duty to support and defend the spirit of the Constitution of the United States; such is not an oxymoron, but an example of a machination of the worst kind.

IMO, again, McConnell should have recused himself from the nomination of any person to be vetted by The Senate; he is beholden to Trump for appointing is wife to his administration, and his behavior in this case and potentially others, is a conflict of interest.

I hope, the many understand what is happening today, and do what American voters have done so often in the past, that is show up on Election day (November 6, 2018) and restore the Separation of Power, and ignore the fear mongering posted by you in your (IMO) thoughtless & baseless comment.
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My post is not about a political party, and your statement is IMO foolish.
Then it's a good thing that I have never put any value in your opinion.

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Sen. McConnell's behavior has been legal, but has been entirely a classic use of nonfeasance, which bring us to today's vote. His call for the vote today, is also Constitutional, but it is also a repudiation of his duty to support and defend the spirit of the Constitution of the United States; such is not an oxymoron, but an example of a machination of the worst kind.
Need I remind you of a Senator from Nevada by the name of Hairy Reed? The same Hairy Reed that stood in the well of the Senate and told outright lies about the Republican Presidential Candidate in an effort to swing the election towards a Democrat.

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IMO, again, McConnell should have recused himself from the nomination of any person to be vetted by The Senate; he is beholden to Trump for appointing is wife to his administration, and his behavior in this case and potentially others, is a conflict of interest.
That's rich. Why don't you inform Ellana Kagan about the reasoning to recuse one's self after she happily presided over cases against the Obama Admin that she had been influential in crafting.

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I hope, the many understand what is happening today, and do what American voters have done so often in the past, that is show up on Election day (November 6, 2018) and restore the Separation of Power, and ignore the fear mongering posted by you in your (IMO) thoughtless & baseless comment.
I will note that while you proclaim my posts as "thoughtless and baseless", you provide nothing to refute any of it.
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It could be said that everyone seeks one party power. Every democrat wants to stop every Republican and vise verse.

Also, all people protect themselves, if they didn't they would be an idiot.

P.S. the coup is coming from the left with their fascist tactics of intimidation of the people they don't like, and the stifling of free speech of those they do not agree with.

You have sunk into a pitiful pit of partisan rhetoric Mr. Catcher. When you first came on to PW you seemed like a reasonable guy that had liberal views, nothing wrong with that, but you have sunk down to a hateful, whining, uber partisan, that thinks he is a Patriot, and everyone that believes differently is a coward and fool.

Your credibility drops farther every day as your hate comes to the surface. But I know, in your twisted way, you are proud of that. keep up the good work.
Good grief, if you were to think, and I doubt that you do, you would not post a personal attack and expect any but the most partisan to applaud you.

An expository response would be for you to try to offer a rebuttal to my post, which is substantive and thoughtful (and I had hoped, wrongly it turns out, to be thought provoking). instead you use fear mongering, an emotional form of rhetoric which feeds denial, willful or otherwise.

Was McConnell's nonfeasance a sign of putting our country first? Is the Senate forcing through a nomination to the SC a sign of good will and justice?

You may say yes. But you cannot provide any reason to support this scheme put into play by McConnell, a leader who rejected the appointment of a duly elected POTUS, simply because he alone could do so.

No greater example of a rejection of democracy occurs to me; though there are others as nefarious which would be on topic but redirect my opening statement.
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Then it's a good thing that I have never put any value in your opinion.



Need I remind you of a Senator from Nevada by the name of Hairy Reed? The same Hairy Reed that stood in the well of the Senate and told outright lies about the Republican Presidential Candidate in an effort to swing the election towards a Democrat.



That's rich. Why don't you inform Ellana Kagan about the reasoning to recuse one's self after she happily presided over cases against the Obama Admin that she had been influential in crafting.



I will note that while you proclaim my posts as "thoughtless and baseless", you provide nothing to refute any of it.
To your points:

1, Off topic, Federal Judges do not have ultimate authority. They do have a Code of Ethics. The SC is the ultimate authority, and do not have a Code of Ethics.

2. Off topic again. Would a Code of Ethics have changed her behavior?

3. You did a wonderful job of proving your comment was not logically sound and thus thoughtless and baseless - personal attacks are not a rebuttal. My comment that your statement was thoughtless and baseless, was not a personal attack. Sorry if that is what you concluded, I truly believe your comment was an emotional response to cognitive dissonance.
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To your points:

1, Off topic, Federal Judges do not have ultimate authority. They do have a Code of Ethics. The SC is the ultimate authority, and do not have a Code of Ethics.

2. Off topic again. Would a Code of Ethics have changed her behavior?

3. You did a wonderful job of proving your comment was not logically sound and thus thoughtless and baseless - personal attacks are not a rebuttal. My comment that your statement was thoughtless and baseless, was not a personal attack. Sorry if that is what you concluded, I truly believe your comment was an emotional response to cognitive dissonance.
1. I have no idea what you are talking about as I never mentioned anything regarding a judges ultimate authority.

2. Again, no idea what you are referring to unless you are talking about me bringing up the Senate majority leader's ethics, or lack there of by the former Democratic leader. If so, it was relevant as it shows the hypocrisy to which those on the left will go to attack the other side.

3. My comment was exactly how I believe that the country would be better off by not allowing a party that has all but embraced Socialism, to come into power in either house of Congress or the Presidency. The comment was not baseless nor thoughtless, but very well reasoned.
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1. I have no idea what you are talking about as I never mentioned anything regarding a judges ultimate authority.

2. Again, no idea what you are referring to unless you are talking about me bringing up the Senate majority leader's ethics, or lack there of by the former Democratic leader. If so, it was relevant as it shows the hypocrisy to which those on the left will go to attack the other side.

3. My comment was exactly how I believe that the country would be better off by not allowing a party that has all but embraced Socialism, to come into power in either house of Congress or the Presidency. The comment was not baseless nor thoughtless, but very well reasoned.
I agree, you have no idea about any of the issues facing my country today. Our democracy is in peril, Trump is a despot and The Congress has abdicated their duty to support and defend COTUS. This is not even close to the hyperbole that your fear mongering is that we are faced with Socialism. That's a meme lacking any substance.

If McConnell gets his way today, and the Senate does not do the right thing, that is put off an vote on Kavanaugh a week, we will all live with the chaos Trump has created, and will empower him to increase his lists of enemies, and attacks on a free press and the mass media.
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