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Old 09-24-2018, 11:41 PM
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Ford should be charged with slander and fraud.

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The claim leveled by Christine Blasey Ford alleged that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her during a ‘summer’ party held some 35 years ago. However, the federal judge’s 1982 calendar indicated that the claim may be completely without merit. The bombshell evidence is something that leftists and the Ford legal team weren’t expecting!

According to the New York Times, a publication hardly known for its right-leaning content, the nominee to the United States Supreme Court found his calendars from the time period that Ford said the assault occurred.

The calendars, as reported by the NYT, showed that his schedule was filled with summer travel, social events, sports workouts, and college considerations, such as interviews at schools.

Blasey Ford, who could not specifically say precisely when the party that she claimed ‘traumatized’ her happened, declared that it was sometime in the summer of 1982, when she was 15 and Kavanaugh 18.

During that time, the future Supreme Court nominee seemed to have a very full social calendar indeed. His meticulous notes, which included parties he attended, didn’t say anything about seeing a ‘Ford.’

It also didn’t add much credibility to her claims that the four people who Ford claimed were there and either witnessed the event or saw both herself and the federal judge at the party all disagreed with her account.

While Kavanaugh and others have repeatedly maintained that no incident happened, or that they didn’t see the alleged assault, the details offered by Dr. Ford have continuously changed.
https://conservativedailypost.com/ka...changes-story/
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Ford's response - "I meant 1983...Yeah!..THAT'S the ticket!"...
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Ford should be charged with slander and fraud.
Normally a binge drinker doesn't record on their calendar when they plan to get so intoxicated that they don't know where they are or what they're doing.

This is as absurd as Michael Cohen claiming that his passport didn't reflect a trip to Prague in September or August of 2016 proved he didn't go there. In fact it's been reported that the Mueller investigation can prove he went to Prague by train from Germany where the passport would not be stamped showing the trip to Prague occurred.

A lack of evidence that something occurred is not evidence that it didn't occur.
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It must be remembered that the burden of proof that Kavanaugh meets both the judicial and personal qualifications to be on the Supreme Court is Brett Kavanaugh's responsibility. For a lifetime appointment to the US Supreme Court an person must have both the highest judiciary qualifications as well as an impeccable personal history.

The "Burden of Proof" is on Brett Kavanaugh to discredit the allegations made by Dr. Ford which, to date, remain very creditable. The FBI might be able to discredit Dr. Ford's allegations but a "he-said-she-said" hearing with no witnesses or evidence being allowed before the Judiciary Committee is not going to accomplish that.
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It must be remembered that the burden of proof that Kavanaugh meets both the judicial and personal qualifications to be on the Supreme Court is Brett Kavanaugh's responsibility. .
Correct. However, if someone is going to accuse him of a crime, they need to produce the proof that it happened. It is not possible for him to prove that it didn't. You cannot prove a negative.
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It must be remembered that the burden of proof that Kavanaugh meets both the judicial and personal qualifications to be on the Supreme Court is Brett Kavanaugh's responsibility. For a lifetime appointment to the US Supreme Court an person must have both the highest judiciary qualifications as well as an impeccable personal history.

The "Burden of Proof" is on Brett Kavanaugh to discredit the allegations made by Dr. Ford which, to date, remain very creditable. The FBI might be able to discredit Dr. Ford's allegations but a "he-said-she-said" hearing with no witnesses or evidence being allowed before the Judiciary Committee is not going to accomplish that.
Little thing called 'proving a negative'.

Kavanaugh has undergone 6 FBI background checks, which did not turn up anything. So far, several of his 'accusers' have failed to provide witnesses or any proof that their accusations are anything but empty air. Supposedly Aventatti (or however it's spelled) has some sort of 'bomb' that he is holding for Thursdays proceedings.

It is NOT Kavanaugh's responsibility to disprove these women's claims, otherwise you will see a whole bunch of BS happening in regards to any appointment, for any position, in the government or otherwise, of unsubstantiated claims by women and men for a variety of accusations.

I will say again - proving a negative is not the responsibility of the accused.
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Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh's Yale roommate says he believes second accuser

"It is from this experience that I concluded that although Brett was normally reserved, he was a notably heavy drinker, even by the standards of the time, and that he became aggressive and belligerent when he was very drunk. I did not observe the specific incident in question, but I do remember Brett frequently drinking excessively and becoming incoherently drunk."
https://abc7news.com/politics/brett-...cuser/4330055/

Incoherent and (sexually) aggressive when excessively drunk is exactly what both allegations are based upon. Both women state that Kavanaugh was excessively intoxicated and acted in a very aggressive manner. Kavanaugh, according to his Yale roommate was often incoherent during these times of excessive drinking and being incoherent it's unlikely that Kavanaugh remembers what he'd done.

Kavanaugh has been trying to portray his times in high school and at Yale as if he was a choir boy but those that knew him, including his close friend Mark Judge, paint a picture of a binge drinking young man that would become so intoxicated that he didn't know where he was or what he was doing. There's also clear evidence and testimony from people that knew him that Brett Kavanaugh was a dedicated misogynist while in high school and Yale (perhaps explaining why he was unable to find any girls to have sexual intercourse with until "years later" according to his statements on Fox News).

Those that knew Brett Kavanaugh will not be allowed to testify at the Judiciary Committee hearing because their testimony would repudiate the testimony of the "Choir Boy" image that Kavanaugh and Republicans have been portraying as a defense against the allegations of sexual assault and harassment.

When I went to high school and college in the late 1960's and early 1970's we would have referred to someone like Brett Kavanaugh as a "drunken pig" but that was on the West Coast and I don't know what he would have been called on the East Coast over ten years later.
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Incoherent and (sexually) aggressive when excessively drunk is exactly what both allegations are based upon. Both women state that Kavanaugh was excessively intoxicated and acted in a very aggressive manner. Kavanaugh, according to his Yale roommate was often incoherent during these times of excessive drinking and being incoherent it's unlikely that Kavanaugh remembers what he'd done.

Kavanaugh has been trying to portray his times in high school and at Yale as if he was a choir boy but those that knew him, including his close friend Mark Judge, paint a picture of a binge drinking young man that would become so intoxicated that he didn't know where he was or what he was doing. There's also clear evidence and testimony from people that knew him that Brett Kavanaugh was a dedicated misogynist while in high school and Yale (perhaps explaining why he was unable to find any girls to have sexual intercourse with until "years later" according to his statements on Fox News).

Those that knew Brett Kavanaugh will not be allowed to testify at the Judiciary Committee hearing because their testimony would repudiate the testimony of the "Choir Boy" image that Kavanaugh and Republicans have been portraying as a defense against the allegations of sexual assault and harassment.

When I went to high school and college in the late 1960's and early 1970's we would have referred to someone like Brett Kavanaugh as a "drunken pig" but that was on the West Coast and I don't know what he would have been called on the East Coast over ten years later.
The USA was one of the first, and is still one of the few, nations to base it's criminal justice system, not on the proof of innocence, on the proof of guilt.. Facts matter. Discounting them because they don't fit the narrative is antithetical to a fair system of judgment in both the courts ,and public opinion. We have heard for more than two weeks, the false innuendos and unproven claims by the media based on the vague accusations of two women. Having developed the most convenient case a of stage fright, Ms. Ford did not do herself, and women in general, any favors. And the Party has abandoned her for the new girl whos book will be titled, "The girl who also cried wolf."

Any claim that the accused Judge Cavanaugh might be guilty is founded in speculation, not factual evidence. Our system depends on proving guilt. But personal assassinations require only speculation and hyperbole to prosper. And those who have a tag line such as yours are easy fodder for the assimilation of that presumption.

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It must be remembered that the burden of proof that Kavanaugh meets both the judicial and personal qualifications to be on the Supreme Court is Brett Kavanaugh's responsibility. For a lifetime appointment to the US Supreme Court an person must have both the highest judiciary qualifications as well as an impeccable personal history.

The "Burden of Proof" is on Brett Kavanaugh to discredit the allegations made by Dr. Ford which, to date, remain very creditable. The FBI might be able to discredit Dr. Ford's allegations but a "he-said-she-said" hearing with no witnesses or evidence being allowed before the Judiciary Committee is not going to accomplish that.
No it's not. Wherever did you get that idea?

There are no qualifications that must be met to be a judge. SC or otherwise. None. You don't have to even be a judge or have any legal training or a BAR license.

The President nominates, The Senate listens to the prospect, then says yes or no. That's the whole process.

During the listen portion, no one except DiFi knew of this credible accuser. She chose not to bring it up. Apparently even she discounted the story.

How do you get witnesses or evidence before the Judiciary Committee if no witnesses or evidence is known to exist?

You've outdone yourself on this one.
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No it's not. Wherever did you get that idea?

There are no qualifications that must be met to be a judge. SC or otherwise. None. You don't have to even be a judge or have any legal training or a BAR license.

The President nominates, The Senate listens to the prospect, then says yes or no. That's the whole process.

During the listen portion, no one except DiFi knew of this credible accuser. She chose not to bring it up. Apparently even she discounted the story.

How do you get witnesses or evidence before the Judiciary Committee if no witnesses or evidence is known to exist?

You've outdone yourself on this one.
He has most likely been listening to the DNC spin machine (i.e., the mainstream media).
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