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"They Just Evacuated Us": Conspiracy Theories Run Wild After FBI Shuts Down Solar Observatory

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The National Solar Observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico was raided and shut down by the FBI on September 6 over an undisclosed national security issue, stirring up a wide array of conspiracy theories on YouTube, social media and tabloids.


"There was a Blackhawk helicopter, a bunch of people around antennas and work crews on towers, but nobody would tell us anything," Otero County Sheriff Benny House told the Alamogordo Daily News. "I don't know why the FBI would get involved so quick and not tell us anything."

An anonymous 4chan user who called both nearby Apache Point Observatory and the local sheriff was told that they were "locked out" of the Sunspot observatory and had no idea what was going on.



Located near both White Sands Missile Range and infamous Roswell New Mexico, speculation over the observatory's abrupt closure has ranged from an alien mothership using the sun to "refuel", to a devastating solar disaster such as the 1859 Carrington Event - a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) which would have undoubtedly blown out most satellites and electronics had they been invented yet.


Despite unusually high sunspot activity during an otherwise quiet period and a minor CME ejection which hit Earth last week, it appears that threat has passed, for now - as a CME takes anywhere from one to three days to hit, which brings us back to aliens and other theories. It doesn't help that several public solar observatory cams have gone offline, including NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) which will be offline "for several weeks" in order to update the "code infrastructure that provides access to SOHO data."


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Others have pointed to the fact that NASA launched a new solar probe last month - the first-ever mission to "touch" the sun, while the space agency will (or has) shot it's Focusing Optics X-ray Solar Imager (FOXSI) 190 miles into space for a 15-minute "peek" at the sun.


The FOXSI mission will take its third flight from the White Sands Missile Range in White Sands, New Mexico, no earlier than September 7, the agency said in a statement. Derived from the nautical term "to sound", meaning to measure, FOXSI rockets make brief 15-minute journeys above the Earth's atmosphere for a peek at space before falling back to the ground. -TimesNowNews


One reader who wishes to remain anonymous has a few theories, including why other solar observatories around the world haven't been raided and locked down:

The many thousands of telescopes world wide are normally looking at the night sky, not at the sun. Additionally, most telescopes are looking at things at distances of 100,000's of light years. They won't "see" a UFO hovering right if front of them, or even a few light minutes away. Only solar scopes are looking at as short a distance as 8 light minutes.

The FBI swooping in on a Blackhawk means that "time" was a factor in the "effectiveness" of their response.

That the FBI shut down the post office is really interesting. Makes me think someone (unidentified) was trying to get the word out, about something, and the FBI was called in to rapidly shut down efforts to communicate beyond the observatory. Shut down the post office and check all the mail, shut down RF comms (guys on the antenna) and go over the facility with a fine tooth comb to find any memory stick or any "virus" program hiding in a computer somewhere ready to send data out to the web when reactivated.

It also wouldn't surprise me to learn that every solar observatory in the world has someone, like their director, who's job is to erase such data. What would it look (to the outside world) like if this designated person at Sunspot AZ contacted the "authorities" and said "we got a 'rogue' trying to get the word out, I need help to shut this thing down"?

How about this: what if data collected from the preeminent solar telescope did show we're heading into a Maunder Minimum; mini ice-age for next 100 years or so? I just read before this FBI episode that solar astronomers had discovered a new solar feature deep in the Sun. Don't remember the details, something about a new, big convection cell or something.

What are the locals saying?


ABC-7 Monday spoke with Shari Lifson, who is with AURA, the company that co-manages the Observatory with NMSU.

“The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy who manages the facility is addressing a security issue at this time. We have decided to vacate the facility at this time as precautionary measure. It was our decision to evacuate the facility.”

Lifson told ABC 7 there is no timetable for the Observatory to be re-opened.

ABC-7 also reached out to the FBI, but did not hear back from the federal agency in time for the deadline. The FBI did speak with local law enforcement about the length of the observatory closure.

“The FBI is refusing to tell us what’s going on. We’ve got people up there (at Sunspot) that requested us to standby while they evacuate it. Nobody would really elaborate on any of the circumstances as to why.

The FBI were up there. What their purpose was nobody will say. But for the FBI to get involved that quick and be so secretive about it, there was a lot of stuff going on up there.

There was a Blackhawk helicopter, a bunch of people around antennas and work crews on towers but nobody would tell us anything.”

The observatory's location, near multiple military bases two hours’ drive from the town of Roswell, has sparked massive speculation on social media. Roswell was the area of a famous 1947 sighting of UFOs which government officials said were high altitude weather balloons.

For the conspiracy-minded, Tyler Glockner, who operates the YouTube conspiracy channel secureteam10, speculates that the evacuation could be part of a government effort to cover up a discovery involving aliens, an imminent solar flare, and or something outer space related. Glockner then said one Reddit user suggested a national security issue threat was discovered involving a foreign power attempting to use the observatory's antennas to spy on nearby White Sands Missile Range.

New amateur drone footage shows the observatory is a "ghost town," said Glockner. When the drone first lifts off, the camera shows the White Sands Missile Range in the distance (25 to 30 miles).


Until the FBI can explain why they swooped in on a Blackhawk helicopter and shut down both the observatory and the local post office, endless conspiracy theories will continue to emerge - unless of course we're all dead from alien invasion, or enslaved to do their bidding.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...&utm_content=1


https://www.popularmechanics.com/spa...o-observatory/

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In this 10-minute video Jimmy Church interviews a man who went to a solar observatory with a camera. This video shows footage of the abandoned area. Strange.

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I was stationed in White Sands ( Holloman AFB ) for 4 years, a lot of weird things have happened in that area. It was a weird place to live. Fun, but weird.
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There have been reports that Blackhawk helicopters and federal agents swooped in and inexplicably evacuated a remote part of New Mexico, including a prominent solar observatory, and this has sparked a great deal of speculation that something has happened in space and that the Men In Black have arrived to cover it up.

Some even speculate that the data at the observatory may have recorded an alien event and that a cover-up is taking place.

FBI agents showed up at the National Solar Observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico, on Friday and shut down the facility, evacuating the local area, including the Sunspot post office.

Otero County Sheriff Benny House told the Alamogordo Daily News that he does not know why the FBI would get involved so quickly and not tell anyone as to why they have focused their attack on a small town and the observatory.

Five days later, the observatory’s website confirms the entire facility is closed to both staff and the public until further notice.

“The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA) who manages the facility is addressing a security issue at this time,” AURA spokesperson Shari Lifson said in an emailed statement. “It’s a temporary evacuation of the facility. We will open it up as soon as possible.”

The whole incident is now been covered up by a vacuum of information. This is a classic story of a small remote area being taken over by the Men in Black and other agents from the FBI.

There are several theories that have been spread around the internet by Reddit, many of course include the idea that the observatory picked up some sort of alien signal or that it has spotted and documented a number of UFO’s. There is also a theory that the observatory.

There have also been theories spreading that a foreign power was attempting to use the observatory’s antennas to spy on nearby White Sands Missile Range.

The observatory was originally built by the military in 1947 when it realized the sun could interfere with radio communications. The National Science Foundation ran the facility from the 1960s until this year, when the operation was transferred to AURA and New Mexico State University.

Now the timing of the closure also coincides with a major solar storm cycle that began on August 26th. Unbelievably a CME came without notice and cracked the earth’s magnetosphere. This was an unbelievably large CME that could have caused a Carrington Event.



The Carrington Event was a powerful geomagnetic solar storm during solar cycle 10 (1855–1867). A solar coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth’s magnetosphere and induced one of the largest geomagnetic storms on record, which happened on September 1–2, 1859.

It was a rare white light solar flare that sent charge plasma down to earth. Telegraph wires burst into flames, touching off fires. People experienced hallucinations and there were firefighters called to fight fires. When they arrived, the fires were not on the ground but in the sky.

It was reported by the Mobile Observatory Project that a crack opened in earth’s magnetic field two weeks ago and plasma started pouring in. There were reported power disruptions in San Francisco, New York, and Los Angeles.

It is now being reported that a huge hole has opened up in the Sun’s corona and that there could be many geo-storms coming our way. This can trigger many sightings of auroras moving further south.

What is strange is that we are now in Solar Minimum, which indicates that something really strange is happening with the sun.

Meanwhile, there are reports that this could be the first space attack from a foreign enemy satellite, attempting to take over the antenna array at the observatory to spy on the activities happening at the White Sands Missile Range.

The Sunspot observatory could have fell victim to a cyberattack where possible intrusion points were found an exploited by a malicious actor. It has been speculated that this could have been an attempt by Chinese intelligence to use their satellites to connect ground stations to terrestrial networks, and the user terminals that connect to satellites and missile systems.

Hackers, if they’re sophisticated enough, can monitor data, insert corrupted data, or “shut down all communications and permanently damage the entire network. In this case, whoever was involved could have brought down the entire observatory and corrupt the systems of everybody in the vicinity of the attack.

The Sunspot observatory is a mere 130 miles from Roswell, New Mexico, and about 90 miles from the White Sands Missile Range.

Something within an hour’s drive from Roswell has also sparked a few theories about alien signals or possibly even UFO’s that were detected by the observatory.

What adds to the theory is that again there are more fast radio bursts coming from space that some scientist conclude are messages from an extraterrestrial civilization.

Last year’s mysterious outburst of Fast Radio Bursts was even more frenzied than previously thought.

Just prior to the Sunspot observatory closure astronomers with the Breakthrough Listen Project spotted 21 repeating light pulses that have added more curiosity by scientists as they are acting in a more peculiar manner than the was spotted in August of 2017.

Some scientists think FRBs come from fast-rotating neutron stars, but their source has not been nailed down. And that explains Breakthrough Listen’s interest: It’s possible that the bursts are produced by intelligent extraterrestrials, perhaps to blast space-sailing craft through the cosmos at incredible speeds, some folks have speculated.

In a new study, Breakthrough Listen team members based at the University of California, Berkeley SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Research Center applied machine-learning techniques to the August 2017 data set, which was acquired by the Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia and was originally analyzed using traditional methods.

The researchers, led by UC Berkeley doctoral student Gerry Zhang, trained an algorithm called a “convolutional neural network” to spot FRBs among the 400 terabytes of data. The strategy is similar to that employed by IT companies to optimize internet search results, Breakthrough Listen representatives said in a statement.



Zhang and his colleagues dug up an additional 72 light flashes, bringing the total number of FRBs detected on that day, from that single source (whatever it may be), to 93.

This, of course, is remarkable as many observatories and arrays have been looking for signals from extraterrestrial worlds.

What is difficult about this entire case is that no news organization has been notified as to why the observatory and the town’s post office has been shut down. The police in the area are not being told why there has been a shut down – this is literally a mystery.

Eyewitnesses are reporting that black vehicles with communication whips have surrounded the area along with off communication monitoring trucks. There have also been black SUV’s a black hawk helicopter and classic men in black seen in the area.

They are searching the entire area for something and have shut down all communication from the area making it hard to get any definitive answers on the matter.

I don't think it's aliens but it's something, you can listen to the radio bursts at the link.
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Well they are hiding something, that's for sure.
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I don't think it's aliens but it's something, you can listen to the radio bursts at the link.
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Well they are hiding something, that's for sure.
Child pornography reason behind Sunspot Observatory closure, according to court documents

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A federal search warrant reveals that Sunspot Solar Observatory was shut down as FBI agents conducted computer forensic searches for child pornography.

The source of child pornography was traced to an IP address used at the observatory and a source within the building observed a computer with "not good" images on it, the warrant states.

An investigation by the FBI revealed that a janitor is the main suspect in the search, however he has not been charged with a crime even though his name in on the warrant.

The warrant states the suspect would use the observatory Wifi and a personal laptop to download the child pornography.

A limited number of people have access to the observatory from dusk until dawn, which helped narrow their search.
Now we know...

Or DO WE?!?!?...
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What a great excuse to shut the place down!
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Now I wish it were because of aliens.
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Now I wish it were because of aliens.
As do I. The entire site was shut down because somebody downloaded some porn onto their laptop?

The alien theory works better.
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As do I. The entire site was shut down because somebody downloaded some porn onto their laptop?

The alien theory works better.
Coulda been alien child porn...
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