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Old 09-13-2018, 03:39 PM
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treaties are in the realm of executive per constitution
of course constitution also mentions what to do in case exec is unfit to hold office. republicans won't do that so its all behind scenes. every bit of it.
you'll have to live with it till trump is out of office
I'd bet a weeks worth of ice cream some administration officials were aware and approve of this. kerry probably spoke with kelly or maddis and others
Well, no, Salty. The President negotiates and proposes treaties, but the Senate must sign off or no go.

[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...

It's that last little snippet that Obama chose to ignore knowing it would never happen.
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[QUOTE=saltwn;948619]treaties are in the realm of executive per constitution
of course constitution also mentions what to do in case exec is unfit to hold office. republicans won't do that so its all behind scenes. every bit of it.
you'll have to live with it till trump is out of office
I'd bet a weeks worth of ice cream some administration officials were aware and approve of this. kerry probably spoke with kelly or maddis and others[/
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Whatever are you talking about?
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treaties are in the realm of executive per constitution
of course constitution also mentions what to do in case exec is unfit to hold office. republicans won't do that so its all behind scenes. every bit of it.
you'll have to live with it till trump is out of office
I'd bet a weeks worth of ice cream some administration officials were aware and approve of this. kerry probably spoke with kelly or maddis and others
Maybe he even spoke with his superior, President Trump.
But of course Swift Boat Kerry has no authority to do anything.
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Maybe he even spoke with his superior, President Trump.
But of course Swift Boat Kerry has no authority to do anything.
Which doesn't stop him from doing something.
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Thank God for John Kerry
Trump's an idiot
There's an intelligent response....NOT.
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treaties are in the realm of executive per constitution
of course constitution also mentions what to do in case exec is unfit to hold office. republicans won't do that so its all behind scenes. every bit of it.
you'll have to live with it till trump is out of office
I'd bet a weeks worth of ice cream some administration officials were aware and approve of this. kerry probably spoke with kelly or maddis and others
I quit reading right there. You obviously are not looking at the United States Constitution. Just to help you out, you may want to read Article 2, Section II of the United States Constitution:

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The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
I bold'd the relevant passage so that you don't have to fumble through all of the other stuff as apparently reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
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treaties are in the realm of executive per constitution
of course constitution also mentions what to do in case exec is unfit to hold office. republicans won't do that so its all behind scenes. every bit of it.
you'll have to live with it till trump is out of office
I'd bet a weeks worth of ice cream some administration officials were aware and approve of this. kerry probably spoke with kelly or maddis and others[/
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Whatever are you talking about?
Anything she can to change the subject.
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Obama had help redefining a treaty as an agreement. RINO Senators led by Corker and McCain went along with the Democrats to hijack Senate rules to require a 2/3 majority to block the so-called agreement. Giving Obama what he wanted even at the cost of destroying the Senate's power of advise and consent over treaties is another example of why Democrats speak so lovingly of the late Senator McCain.
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Obama had help redefining a treaty as an agreement. RINO Senators led by Corker and McCain went along with the Democrats to hijack Senate rules to require a 2/3 majority to block the so-called agreement. Giving Obama what he wanted even at the cost of destroying the Senate's power of advise and consent over treaties is another example of why Democrats speak so lovingly of the late Senator McCain.
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Trump should yank his security clearance.
If it was secret, why did he expose these meetings?

Yanking security clearance from anyone who served honorably, only because his patriotism drives pme to speak on what most observers know, that is, Trump's Foreign Policy is chaotic and puts our country in jeopardy.

Sect. Kerry has lots knowledge and experience on diplomacy and political realities, Trump has none; he has zero ability to be diplomatic or to learn from experience.

Why haven't you learned this, and why continue to defend Trump&Co's. policies? Their policies and behavior won't make America Great, it is destroying every bit of what our county was founded upon.,
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