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Old 08-16-2018, 11:03 PM
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The only thing less credible would be if you claimed to see Christ waving a doubledong while riding sidesaddle on a rainbow farting unicorn.



And why do you think your opinion should be treated with anything but raillery?



The only thing stupider than someone thinking they are a political forum sage is someone who thinks themselves a message board psychiatrist.
other than his apparent narcissism, I don't think trump is mentally ill. and its debatable if narcissism is a mental illness unless accompanied by other more dangerous quirks.
he's just a good salesman and is able to tap in to anything below a certain level.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:21 PM
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Wrong, my post is the post of a patriot. Trump is as I've pointed out, unfit to be President of the United States; in fact, he is unfit to be mayor of a very small town.

He is a classic example of someone who suffers Cluster B, Personality Disorders: 301.7 Antisocial PD; 301.50 Histrionic PD; 301.81 Narcissistic PD. You can look these up, though the numbers maybe out of date since my copy of the DSM-IVr has been revised.
Trump singlehandedly beat the Clinton machine and the DNC at their own game.
That, in and of itself, shows that he is not the unfit idiot people think he is.

Yes, he is dangerous, that is why the MSM and Democrats have been going after him so hard, but he is only dangerous to them, and politicians in general.

I believe everything he is doing will work out for Americans.

It may not be what democrats want, but they did not elect him.

You and other democrats are just trying to keep him from doing what he promised, by any means necessary.

You all know that if he is able to be successful, and keep his promises, it will make ALL politicians look feeble and impotent.

YOU CAN NOT LET THAT HAPPEN!!!
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Old 08-17-2018, 02:43 PM
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Wrong, my post is the post of a patriot. Trump is as I've pointed out, unfit to be President of the United States; in fact, he is unfit to be mayor of a very small town.

He is a classic example of someone who suffers Cluster B, Personality Disorders: 301.7 Antisocial PD; 301.50 Histrionic PD; 301.81 Narcissistic PD. You can look these up, though the numbers maybe out of date since my copy of the DSM-IVr has been revised.
Poor Wry, what's a matter have you been forced to get a job in this booming economy or something? I guess you like Obama's sluggish, shovel-ready economy better. It's obvious you had/have no empathy for all the people out of work and struggling under Obama, well those people are doing better now as we all are. Sad that you put hatred before the good of the country.
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Before Donald Trump announced his candidacy for President no one ever talked smack about him. He had a successful TV show that got decent ratings and for all intensive purposes all was good.

But as soon as he came down that escalator and made that announcement, all Hell broke loose. Why is that?

Is it because he was no politician but still he had the chutzpah to run for POTUS? Or is it because the Republican's and Democrats both had a LOT to hide? Personally I believe it's the latter.
I think Dog Man is right, I think all the EXTREME, over-the-top hatred and violence over Trump is because of:
1. Politicians
2. Media
3. Soros
4. Mueller's witch hunt
5. Hollywood

All of the above are making SURE that NO ONE ever has that chutzpah again
and in addition they are making sure that no one even wants to be part of Trump's administration.

I find the above hateful and immoral and believe all of the people doing this
are traitors to America.
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Special ops shoot down Brennan and his defenders: 'You put your politics before us' | Fox News

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John Brennan rallied numerous high-powered defenders to his corner over his security clearance clash with President Trump, but some well-known special ops heroes are firing back suggesting the former CIA director got what he deserves.

Kris “Tanto” Paronto, a former Army Ranger and private security contractor who was part of the CIA team that fought back during the 2012 Benghazi terror attack, accused Brennan of putting his “politics” before those in the field.

“He is lucky the security clearance is all he is getting away with,” Paronto told Fox News in an interview on Friday.

Responding a day earlier to Brennan’s tweet that his “principles are worth far more than clearances,” Paronto also tweeted:

“My principles are greater than clearances too John, especially when you and the @CIA kool-aid drinkers punishes us for not going along with the Benghazi cover-up story in order to protect you, @HillaryClinton’s & @BarackObama’s failures. You put your politics before us.”


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My principles are greater than clearances too John, especially when you and the @CIA kool-aid drinkers punished us for not going along with the Benghazi cover-up story in order to protect you, @HillaryClinton ‘s & @BarackObama ‘s failures. You put your politics before us.


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This action is part of a broader effort by Mr. Trump to suppress freedom of speech & punish critics. It should gravely worry all Americans, including intelligence professionals, about the cost of speaking out. My principles are worth far more than clearances. I will not relent. https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1029803310444892162

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Paronto helped write the book "13 Hours," later turned into a feature film, about the Benghazi attack. He has said he and his team lost their security clearances for speaking out.

Security operators including Paronto previously had to sign non-disclosure agreements -- Paronto told Fox News he signed three pertaining to Benghazi within a six-month period -- though Brennan told lawmakers in 2014 this was not a specific effort to prevent them from speaking to Congress.

Paronto maintains, however, that he didn't share classified information in telling the Benghazi story and continues to object to their clearances being revoked.

“Normally when you have a clearance suspended, you’re supposed to know why ... I was never given that,” he said, blaming Brennan. “It was his determination whether we kept our clearances or not.”

He also took exception at how the Benghazi team was treated upon their return.

“We come back from being on the ground to be treated as a second class citizen. You come back and you’re called a liar,” Paronto told Fox News. “Brennan came in and there was no talk of ‘hey, good job guys,’ not that you look for it, but instead, it was ‘don’t say anything guys, we don’t want the truth to get out.’”

Paronto continued his attack against Brennan on Twitter Thursday night, firing a round of accusations against the former CIA director.


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..Or caught lying to congress OR caught spying on Pres. candidates OR caught using their positions to influence US elections OR caught fabricating stories about attacks on US personnel in Libya OR providing weapons to ISIS backed militias in Syria ..should I go on @JohnBrennan ?


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Why should FBI and DOJ officials keep their security clearance when they're fired or caught leaking? Of course they should lose their clearance. Jim Jordan on deposing George Toscas in FISA abuse probe | On Air Videos | Fox News


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Meanwhile, numerous leaders from the intelligence community defended Brennan, calling President Trump’s decision to revoke his security clearance “ill-considered and unprecedented.”

12 EX-INTEL OFFICIALS SLAM TRUMP FOR 'ILL-CONSIDERED AND UNPRECEDENTED' ACTION AGAINST BRENNAN

“The president’s action regarding John Brennan and the threats of similar action against other former officials has nothing to do with who should and should not hold security clearances—and everything to do with an attempt to stifle free speech,” the letter from 12 former intelligence officials read.

“As individuals who have cherished and helped preserve the right of Americans to free speech—even when that right has been used to criticize us—that signal is inappropriate and deeply regrettable,” they wrote.

The group included six former CIA directors, notably retired Army Gen. David H. Petraeus; former director of national intelligence James Clapper, whose security clearance is also under consideration at the White House; and five former deputy directors of the CIA.

Another senior official, William McRaven, who was commander of U.S. Joint Special Operations command from 2011 to 2014 and oversaw the Navy SEAL raid in Pakistan that killed Usama bin Laden, penned an op-ed for the Washington Post Thursday, urging Trump to “revoke my security clearance, too.”

TRUMP REVOKES EX-CIA DIRECTOR JOHN BRENNAN'S SECURITY CLEARANCE

McRaven called Brennan “a man of unparalleled integrity,” and said he would “consider it an honor” to have his security clearance revoked and add his name to “the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.”

“If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken,” McRaven wrote. “The criticism will continue until you become the leader we prayed you would be.”


Robert O'Neill, the SEAL Team 6 member who killed Usama bin Laden, respectfully disagreed with McRaven. (Fox News )

“I have nothing but respect and love for ADM McRaven. Yes I’ve seen this. We simply disagree,” O’Neill tweeted with a link to McRaven’s op-ed.


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I have nothing but respect and love for ADM McRaven. Yes I’ve seen this. We simply disagree. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...a7a_story.html

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Opinion | Revoke my security clearance, too, Mr. President
I know John Brennan. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, honesty and character.

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But O’Neill reserved a Twitter burn for former Obama foreign policy adviser Ben Rhodes, who touted the ex-CIA director’s involvement in the killing of the 9/11 mastermind in 2011.

“John Brennan was the point person for the Obama White House on the operation that killed Osama bin Laden. He knows a lot more about defending our nation than someone who uses security clearances to punish his political adversaries,” Rhodes tweeted.


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John Brennan was the point person for the Obama White House on the operation that killed Osama bin Laden. He knows a lot more about defending our nation than someone who uses security clearances to punish his political adversaries.

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O’Neill responded: “Actually, @brhodes, 23 conservatives went after UBL. No offense, in case you were wondering.”


Robert J. O'Neill

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Actually, @brhodes , 23 conservatives went after UBL. No offense, in case you were wondering.


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John Brennan was the point person for the Obama White House on the operation that killed Osama bin Laden. He knows a lot more about defending our nation than someone who uses security clearances to punish his political adversaries.

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Trump singlehandedly beat the Clinton machine and the DNC at their own game.
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Last time a lot of disgruntled didn't vote and Democrats voted for third party (can you say Ross Perot? ); next time it will be different. Unless Trump cheats. Hopefully there won't be a next time.
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Last time a lot of disgruntled didn't vote and Democrats voted for third party (can you say Ross Perot? ); next time it will be different. Unless Trump cheats. Hopefully there won't be a next time.
WRONG!

Democrats hated Hillary Clinton.
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WRONG!

Democrats hated Hillary Clinton.
what I said
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I think anyone no longer employed in those security positions should have their security clearances revoked. If they need them to testify about something classified then security clearances can temporarily be reinstated.
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I think anyone no longer employed in those security positions should have their security clearances revoked. If they need them to testify about something classified then security clearances can temporarily be reinstated.
I generally agree, though I know anecdotally of situations where this might not be advisable. Prolly time to rework the applicable policies. And certainly if someone is spending most of their time in the media and acting as a media pundit, they should not have one of these clearance. Boo Hoo Brennan's whines are what got his security clearance revoked in the first place. A new chorus of boo hoo to join his won't matter to anyone but Brennan's like minded media pundits and so called journalist.

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