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Old 09-02-2018, 07:03 AM
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NY shouldn't need a scheme or a back door. They are constitutionally right to set their own gun regulations as they see fit.
The purpose of the 2nd amendment isn't so we can go hunting and shoot burglars. Its so that the people IE average citizens can have the means to defend against foreign invasions and a tyrannical government. What New York and other anti-2nd amendment states are doing amounts to burglars telling homeowners what window bars, locks, dogs or other security measures they can and can't take and then requiring a permit/license to be able to purchase and use those things.

States do not have the right to regulate firearms how they see fit. The constitution is the supreme law of the land. Its why it says shall not infringe at the 2nd of the 2nd amendment. And if you notice the 2nd amendment is in whats called the bill of rights. Not the bill of permissions and not the bill of state granted privileges.Meaning I don't need the government's permission to exercise it and that its none of the government's damn business what gun I own just like its none of the government's business what religious books I read, what I print on paper or any other right expressed in the bill of rights.
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Do you really think this action is the state "setting their own gun regulations"?

This is the state of New York -- simply because of its opposition to the NRA and their support for and defense of a constitutional right -- abusing its authority to regulate financial firms and insurance writers, threatening them with punitive action if they do business with the NRA.


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abusing its authority to regulate financial firms

which were regulated due to the 1920s excesses of greed which collapsed the economy, then were lifted for Reagan crones = 2008 crash (because GHWB raised taxes preventing sudden impact, but his kid lowered taxes w/o cuts or regulation)

[regulating]financial firms and insurance writers

which they have every right to do.

2nd amendment is not damaged
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2nd amendment is not damaged
While I like a goofy "Germans bombed Pearl Harbor" tangent as much as anyone, I feel like I should tell you that this issue has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment or any state's authority to write gun regulations.

Let's step into the wayback machine and I'll give you the link again -- I'll hyperlink the headline this time, you might click on it this time:

New York State Can’t Be Allowed to Stifle the NRA’s Political Speech
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While I like a goofy "Germans bombed Pearl Harbor" tangent as much as anyone, I feel like I should tell you that this issue has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment or any state's authority to write gun regulations.

Let's step into the wayback machine and I'll give you the link again -- I'll hyperlink the headline this time, you might click on it this time:

New York State Can’t Be Allowed to Stifle the NRA’s Political Speech
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