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Old 07-31-2018, 04:18 AM
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Ocasio-Cortez isn't yet running for President. She is running for Congress.

Her mommy and daddy bought her a degree in economics yet, she cannot explain the economics of her plan for America.

Somebody should be asking for their money back..
her father was dead when she went to work waitress to help her mother, then she built her own job; isn't that the sort of thing you are supposed to admire?

Most of the stuff you see negative about her was engineered by propagandists who's bosses do not give a shLt about you or me.

The programs can be funded and infrastructure revamped as it was in the greatest economic and creatively beneficial era on earth- 1950s America. Through higher levy on income starting at a certain amount. Back then it was after your first 400 thousand dollars. Today that may be raised idk, but that is how you do it. And single payer health care is cheaper than our system now and before obama care.
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omg sam Seder's remarks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ha3dvgtKBc
But yeah this is the scenario
Didn't bother watching the video, anything that starts with 'why X is so scared of Y' means they are attempting to paint anyone who disagrees as emotionally stunted.

I could give you a logical answer, why most people disagree with it. Because when you can't make everybody rich, you have to make everybody poor, excluding the elite who are the ones at the top of the pyramid.

I tell you what, set a good example for all us here at PW, by doing what is required to support such a society. Divide your 'wealth' (cash and material goods) by 100. Give away to 99 people 1% each of your wealth, and retain only 1% for yourself. After all, other people will voluntarily do the same, and soon you will have as much wealth as you started with, right?
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Didn't bother watching the video, anything that starts with 'why X is so scared of Y' means they are attempting to paint anyone who disagrees as emotionally stunted.

I could give you a logical answer, why most people disagree with it. Because when you can't make everybody rich, you have to make everybody poor, excluding the elite who are the ones at the top of the pyramid.

I tell you what, set a good example for all us here at PW, by doing what is required to support such a society. Divide your 'wealth' (cash and material goods) by 100. Give away to 99 people 1% each of your wealth, and retain only 1% for yourself. After all, other people will voluntarily do the same, and soon you will have as much wealth as you started with, right?
if I can watch nauseating hannity et al, you can watch an independent news commentator from the left.
I respect you, but you have to look at the info or
you'll be like 99% of the others on the internet- misinformed about your opponent and repeating talking points.
you don't know if most people or all or any people disagree with the platform Cortez puts forth.
it isn't socialism as a form of government. its a better social safety net.
also they want to re-institute the glass steigal act , which would be a very good thing for the economy of the nation. besides looking at society and how we survive with a vibrant future as opposed to -like we have now- devolving down into oligarchy or worse. prison reform, immigration reform, etc
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As our economy continues to get better and better, the left gets more rabid in their hate. Take, for instance, Shiva's signature, what a flipping hoot it is.

The Left cares absolutely NOTHING for we tax paying citizens, all the Left cares about are the illegals flooding our country AND they care about their hatred.
I couldn't live like that.
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if I can watch nauseating hannity et al, you can watch an independent news commentator from the left.
I respect you, but you have to look at the info or
you'll be like 99% of the others on the internet- misinformed about your opponent and repeating talking points.
you don't know if most people or all or any people disagree with the platform Cortez puts forth.
it isn't socialism as a form of government. its a better social safety net.
also they want to re-institute the glass steigal act , which would be a very good thing for the economy of the nation. besides looking at society and how we survive with a vibrant future as opposed to -like we have now- devolving down into oligarchy or worse. prison reform, immigration reform, etc
I can't stomach any of that bunch at Fox, so you are preaching to the choir.

I don't repeat 'talking points' - I do my own research on things that are of concern to me or interest me. I will on occasion even take points you bring up and research them.

In order to fund these 'better social nets', the only way to fund them is, well, socialistic taxation. In other words, socialism. Working to put the majority of the fruits of your labors into a common pool to support others is rather blatantly socialistic.

Assisting people who cannot support themselves, or assisting the aged is for the betterment of the general society. Forking over more money to be put in a common pool to assist those who didn't bother doing it for themselves, is to the detriment of those who did.

I've asked the question an untold number of times, and I've yet to get a sane answer. At what point is helping someone else a detriment to myself?

The basic, very basic answer, is when I have to look to someone else to pay my way. And that is exactly what socialistic policies do.
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Ya mean Socialism isn't paid for by unicorn farts and elf masturbation?

Ocasio-Cortez Supporters Stumped on How Democratic Socialism Would Be Funded

Supporters of political newcomer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) were unable to surmise how all of the monetary freedoms she is promising will be paid for.

Campus Reform Media Director Cabot Phillips asked people in Astoria, Queens if they favored her Democratic socialist platform and her mission of "Medicare for all" and tuition-free colleges and universities.

Astoria is a portion of the 14th Congressional District in which Ocasio-Cortez won her nomination against Rep. Joe Crowley (D).

On "Fox & Friends" Saturday, Phillips said that some of her millennial supporters don't have the right historical context to know about failed attempts at socialism.

Ocasio-Cortez surprisingly won her New York Democratic primary in June, but has recently been called out for campaign missteps like getting her political colors mixed up and criticizing Israel’s "occupation” of the Palestinian territories during an interview.

Many interviewees told Phillips that they support Ocasio-Cortez's goals, but were lost when asked how they'd be funded.

"I don't know where they money would come from, but they can figure it out," one respondent said of how things like free health care and education would be paid for.

Phillips said Saturday that although it may be tempting to joke around about the rise of Democratic socialism, it isn't a laughing matter.

"This is a serious issue," he said.

He added that universities not making civics and economics courses mandatory have played a role in the lack of education on the matter.

One supporter of Ocasio-Cortez also told Phillips that the American public would be OK with paying higher taxes if they had "a good idea and a good reason to spend their tax money."

Phillips said that success in the United States has been demonized, and is another reason why many are supportive of Democratic socialist ideals.

"Many people are taught that if you are wealthy, you only got that way because you stole it from someone less fortunate or less privileged."

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I think most of them figured that the rich and the upper middle class would just get the living **** taxed out of them so that they can get all this free stuff. Probably too embarrassed to admit that they want to mooch off other peoples money.
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I think most of them figured that the rich and the upper middle class would just get the living **** taxed out of them so that they can get all this free stuff. Probably too embarrassed to admit that they want to mooch off other peoples money.
Unfortunately, many do not see it as 'mooching', they see it as what they deserve, regardless if they actually did anything to earn it.

What I think is lacking for some, is the understanding of where 'free' whatever comes from. They think the government just pulls money from thin air... oh wait, they do. Which is really effective at devaluing the money that those who do work 'create'.
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Can we all just agree socialism supporters are lazy fuqs who want a free ride and move on to taco recipes?
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Still waiting on Salty or any of the other Socialism supporters to answer the questions posed to these young idiots. Apparently, the questions are too tough to answer and still support socialism.
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didn't you already post a thread about funding education etc? why didnt you add this to that discussion?
or is this gonna be like your rampant multiple obama posts a few years ago?
huh. you just might push her into the presidency.
WOHHHHHH HAHAHAHA! That dingbat has a better chance at becoming poster child for Stupids 'R' Us.
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