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She's part of the msm that will not let her give her entire views, but yes she's still way right of bernie. her and a smidgen of others would maybe like to say more but their jobs are more important. cjenk ugar quit because although they loved him ragging on corporate republicans, they wanted him to shut up anything negative about corporate democrats.
hillary w9uld not have been much different than rubio or cruz. americans knew that. thats why some stayed home and others voted trump. although a liar and a shill he wasnt the traditional politician.
Hillary would not have been much different from Cruz or Rubio. That's a whopper only a true believe could buy. Between clinging to Obama, literally and policy wise, she scrambled to appropriate as much of Bernie as she could. Bernie started using the phrase "no bank too big to fail, no executive too important to jail" in his standard stump speech. Within weeks Hillery copied it word for word at every campaign stop. Bernie even sarcastically sent her a your welcome in his speeches.

Pick an issue immigration, guns, taxes or foreign policy Hillary would have been a vastly different President, much further to the Left than Cruz or Rubio.
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You were wrong, get over it.

Along with wages, jobs, personal income retention, lowered unemployment across all lines of gender and race, national security, border crossing apprehensions, the stock market and the dollar are all up....; WAY UP.

So those damn Trump-tards you blindly disrespect may be stupid, but it would appear by all that really matters, they got lucky with their choice..

So did the nation, and so did you.

I don't care which of the two rotten political parties he seems to represent or reject. His political policies are working for the working people of this country. Andthey willfor theworld.




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What peace in the world did SOS Clinton bring?

What peace in the world, much less in America, did President Obama bring?
Awesome, kick-a$$ post Franc, you said it all.
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Other than him the only people claiming Trump would win were the Trump-tards. After these people are morons who Think Trump is outsider, a conservative,Tells it like it is an says what he means. When in reality he flip flops. He is two face.He praised, supported and donated money to liberal democrats and RINO republicans IE the establish.Before he was saying lock her up him and his family were hanging out with the Clintons on numerous occasion. He basically supported everything the Trump-tards claimed to oppose before he decided that he wanted to be president. So anyone with a brain thought that there was no way in Hell Trump was going to win especially with the media constantly pounding negative stories about him day after. Which inadvertently gave him free publicity. Heck I thought Clinton was going to curb stomp him on election day, that is how bad I thought Trump was going to lose to Clinton by.
I felt much the same as you prior to the election. However, I didn't go so far as to call his supporters "Trump-Tards". I understand where they were coming from and why they supported him. I just didn't trust him as I knew about his past.

However, I have to admit that I was wrong about him to this point in time. He has proved so far, to be committed to conservative principles and has done a good job of holding his own against the left wing and the MSM (again I repeat myself).
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I felt much the same as you prior to the election. However, I didn't go so far as to call his supporters "Trump-Tards". I understand where they were coming from and why they supported him. I just didn't trust him as I knew about his past.

However, I have to admit that I was wrong about him to this point in time. He has proved so far, to be committed to conservative principles and has done a good job of holding his own against the left wing and the MSM (again I repeat myself).
We also knew about Obama's past, and for that matter Hillary Clinton's. Still they garnered votes. Obama got enough to be elected and by his second day in office he was allowed to be President.

Only a fringe few called for immediate impeachment and they were soon silenced by common sense Americans who, like it or not, accepted he was our President.

It's not the disagreement with his policies that has Trump in trouble with the opposition. It is their insistence on the constant de-legitimation of his election, and daily demands for his impeachment for the "Treason" of the day, for which he is embattled. Both with the political opposition and the supposedly impartial MSM.

Although I still believe they should have, no legitimate press or politician questioned Obama's right to be President for virtually all of his 8 years in office. Not because legally qualified but because that very question was never settled in the law. It was the obligation of the press to find out. They and the swamp creatures were fine with the ignorance and instead used the controversy throughout his Presidency to silence the opposition.

That said, I believe that once the Electoral college ratified the vote, and the Chief Justice gave him the oath of office, Obama was our President. And from me and the rest of America, afforded the respect and power of the office. I further believe such should have been afforded THE Donald.

I am incredibly grateful I do not have to swallow my anger and afford such to Hilary. Should she run again, I will oppose her. But if she wins, that is the way our system works.

I seriously doubt I have to be worried.
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You were wrong, get over it.

Along with wages, jobs, personal income retention, lowered unemployment across all lines of gender and race, national security, border crossing apprehensions, the stock market and the dollar are all up....; WAY UP.

So those damn Trump-tards you blindly disrespect may be stupid, but it would appear by all that really matters, they got lucky with their choice..

So did the nation, and so did you.

I don't care which of the two rotten political parties he seems to represent or reject. His political policies are working for the working people of this country. Andthey willfor theworld.


"I would rather sacrifice politics for peace than peace for politics"
USA President DJ TRUMP
I admit I like most of the things Trump campaigned on.i like that he campaigned against outsourcing. I like that he supports building a wall and cracking down on illegal immigration. I like that he doesn't really want us in the rest of the worlds business and many other issues. Its just due to his past words and actions I didn't trust him to carry those things out. It would be like if George Soros(if foreign born citizens could run for president) ran for president as a conservative republican. Don't you think any intelligent person would be highly suspicious of this change?


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What peace in the world did SOS Clinton bring?

What peace in the world, much less in America, did President Obama bring?
I am glad Obama is no longer president and I am glad Clinton is not president. Criticism of Trump is not in any shape or form an endorsement for those two.
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I admit I like most of the things Trump campaigned on.i like that he campaigned against outsourcing. I like that he supports building a wall and cracking down on illegal immigration. I like that he doesn't really want us in the rest of the worlds business and many other issues. Its just due to his past words and actions I didn't trust him to carry those things out. It would be like if George Soros(if foreign born citizens could run for president) ran for president as a conservative republican. Don't you think any intelligent person would be highly suspicious of this change?




I am glad Obama is no longer president and I am glad Clinton is not president. Criticism of Trump is not in any shape or form an endorsement for those two.
Before running for Office we all knew THE Donald. One cannot say as much for the dark horse Obama who came out of now where with much of his past purposely hidden. Clinton is secretive and devious as hell but her wake wreaks of carnage both personal and financial.

Your #18 post of venal opinions of Trump was hardly flattering. And using SOROS as a comparative example of Trump possibilities is an insane insult to Trump and also to "intelligent" people.

Whatever you are drinking, I would suggest a review of the ingredients with-in.
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I felt much the same as you prior to the election. However, I didn't go so far as to call his supporters "Trump-Tards". I understand where they were coming from and why they supported him. I just didn't trust him as I knew about his past.
I knew Trump's past. The people who supported him knew Trump past and still voted him. They said stupid **** like "Trump is an outsider", "Trump says what he means","Trump is an outsider" or "Trump tells it like it is" when anyone intelligent knew that those statements are blatantly false. How can anyone in their right mind say that those people are not stupid? It would like if Nancy Pelosi or some other lib with a track record as a lib decided to run as a conservative republican and did a 180 and campaigned against all the stuff they "used to believe in".
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Before running for Office we all knew THE Donald.
I seriously doubt that.Or you are just gullible, enjoy gambling or a party before principal voter.


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Your #18 post of venal opinions of Trump was hardly flattering. And using SOROS as a comparative example of Trump possibilities is an insane insult to Trump and also to "intelligent" people.
Its a perfect example because it illustrates someone with a proven track record of all the liberal **** they said, believed and helped finance and associated with doing a 180 because they wanted to be president. Before he jumped on the birther tard band wagon Trump was praising Obama. Before Trump said lock her up he was giving Clinton money and hanging out with the Clintons. Before Trump was claiming to be an outsider and anti-establishment he was donating money to the establishment, espousing their beliefs and praising the jobs they were doing.
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I seriously doubt that.Or you are just gullible, enjoy gambling or a party before principal voter.




Its a perfect example because it illustrates someone with a proven track record of all the liberal **** they said, believed and helped finance and associated with doing a 180 because they wanted to be president. Before he jumped on the birther tard band wagon Trump was praising Obama. Before Trump said lock her up he was giving Clinton money and hanging out with the Clintons. Before Trump was claiming to be an outsider and anti-establishment he was donating money to the establishment, espousing their beliefs and praising the jobs they were doing.
What part of Trump's very public life was hidden?

The man was well known since the 70's.


What THE Donald is turns out to be very different from any politician we've seen for a while. What he clearly is capable of is getting things done. Period. No doubt that scares a lot of folks on both coasts and the DC swamp

You can make the statement but not the case that he isn't an outsider. The fact that neither party was happy with him makes the case he was. And given the resistant of both parties to effecting his agenda tend to confirm he is still not an insider. Repeating echo chamber sound bites is hardly the basis of a good argument. I would suggest that you stop depending on chain e-mails for your opinions and look at what is actually happening.


But this is about Hilary running for Prez in 2020. I hope she does. And after four years of clearing the DC swamp, (yes the creatures are leaving in droves), I doubt Trump will have made many friends. But Hilary will find very few of her's, if any, still in residence there.
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Hillary would not have been much different from Cruz or Rubio. That's a whopper only a true believe could buy. Between clinging to Obama, literally and policy wise, she scrambled to appropriate as much of Bernie as she could. Bernie started using the phrase "no bank too big to fail, no executive too important to jail" in his standard stump speech. Within weeks Hillery copied it word for word at every campaign stop. Bernie even sarcastically sent her a your welcome in his speeches.
yep in that respect she's a lot like trump. say anything to get elected then scoop up the cash.
Pick an issue immigration, guns, taxes or foreign policy Hillary would have been a vastly different President, much further to the Left than Cruz or Rubio.
nope you're wrong. she's dem lite and rubio is rep lite.
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