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Old 07-12-2018, 09:54 AM
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lower tax by a percentage leaves the same portions allocated
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I am glad you don't work in my field, you wouldn't last long. Payroll (income) taxes are by percentages. And here are REAL tax figures on your base $50,000. And by the way, who ever put together that meme is dumber then dirt.

$50,000
Social security (ee portion) 6.2% $3,100
Medicare (ee portion) 1.45% $ 725
Federal withholding varies based on number of dependents declare and marital status.
SOME states employees pay a portion of the SUTA, not all states.
FUTA is employer paid.

And there is your Payroll taxes 101 class.
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[QUOTE=saltwn;940737]Quit saying, "Our money!"

Your right salty, it is not "OUR" money, it is "MY" money that "I" earned.

But I think that is what Frank meant. When he says "OUR" money, he means the money that hard working people earned and the Government took away.

People that do not earn money are not able to grasp that concept. They think the Government just takes money from people that don't deserve it, and gives it to those that do.

I'm all for some of my tax dollars going to help people that are physically or mentally disabled. But the fact is, a majority of people receiving what I worked for, are able to take care of themselves.

There is more than enough revenue coming in, it is just not getting to enough people that actually need it.

I know you are handicapped Salty, and I don't mind helping you.

But it is your able-bodied neighbor that is on the dole that is stealing money that should be allocated to YOU!

I am the one that has been working full time + for the past 45 years that constantly gives, but takes nothing.

I won't even mention how many hours per week I volunteer my time to help others (well, mostly animals)

What would happen if the government asked abled bodied people on welfare to volunteer their free time to helping others?
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Quit saying, "Our money!"

Your right salty, it is not "OUR" money, it is "MY" money that "I" earned.

But I think that is what Frank meant. When he says "OUR" money, he means the money that hard working people earned and the Government took away.

People that do not earn money are not able to grasp that concept. They think the Government just takes money from people that don't deserve it, and gives it to those that do.

I'm all for some of my tax dollars going to help people that are physically or mentally disabled. But the fact is, a majority of people receiving what I worked for, are able to take care of themselves.

There is more than enough revenue coming in, it is just not getting to enough people that actually need it.

I know you are handicapped Salty, and I don't mind helping you.

But it is your able-bodied neighbor that is on the dole that is stealing money that should be allocated to YOU!

I am the one that has been working full time + for the past 45 years that constantly gives, but takes nothing.

I won't even mention how many hours per week I volunteer my time to help others (well, mostly animals)

What would happen if the government asked abled bodied people on welfare to volunteer their free time to helping others?
THAT RIGHT THERE^^^^^^^

What was the response when people were asked to work for their welfare? Volunteering for a multitude of organizations (human or animal) to 'earn' what they are being given adds skills to their resumes also.

Now back to our regularly scheduled arguments.....
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THAT RIGHT THERE^^^^^^^

What was the response when people were asked to work for their welfare? Volunteering for a multitude of organizations (human or animal) to 'earn' what they are being given adds skills to their resumes also.

Now back to our regularly scheduled arguments.....
I have a feeling that the ACLU and other organizations would have a cow if able bodied people were asked to volunteer.

The words - hateful, and mean spirited come to mind. And in many cases "Racist" would be used.

Could you imagine what they would say if Trump asked them to volunteer?
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Quit saying, "Our money!"
You are not getting a big tax cut. Or a long term reduction in taxes. You are paying to make up the difference that a hundred or a thousand people wont pay. I say 'won't' because they are the ones who bribed their way into this gift.
Even before this give away by the (now defunked Republican) Trump Party, oil and gas co's got a give away. Although they were wealthy beyond belief, and charge whatever they want, we GAVE them subsidies in the form of big tax breaks, let alone the actual grants and sh*t they get.
If you are happy picking up a larger portion of the tab for the defense and infrastructure and all departments of America including travel and salaries of politicians, you are a lot more charitable than you let on.
Where do you think the gap will come from? Number one middle class tax cuts aren't long term and we have yet to see if the new tax plan (deductions etc) will help or hurt them. If you don't have your taxes raised the gap will be filled in the form of fees.
And the ONLY reason the middle class tax cuts aren't permanent is because of stupid Democrats. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Salty just can't STAND it that our economy is BOOMING and it's ALL because of Donald J. Trump.
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Salty just can't STAND it that our economy is BOOMING and it's ALL because of Donald J. Trump.
NONE! of the Democrats can stand that! That's why they are doing what they can to hurt the economy. If they get a majority in November ( they won't) but if they do, they will put even more effort into bringing down this country just so they can blame it on Trump.

War, recession, depression, it's ALL good as long as Trump is POTUS.
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Opps, time for the so called "socialist" to alter her biography. Now that it has been found to be shall we say, a wee bit fictional?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweaks bio after residency questions

https://www.lohud.com/story/news/pol...ons/761456002/
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Opps, time for the so called "socialist" to alter her biography. Now that it has been found to be shall we say, a wee bit fictional?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweaks bio after residency questions

https://www.lohud.com/story/news/pol...ons/761456002/
Your link wants me to take a survey to access 'premium' content. Mmmm, no thank you.
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