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Old 06-27-2018, 02:21 PM
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Interesting....

I wonder if the employees forfeit the wages, vacations and work rules set up by the unions and companies prior....


If you dont want to pay dues fine, cut your own deal with the company, no union benefits....
The deals should already have been laid out to the employees who work with the respective company. What is this bullshlt about what "deals" the union thieves can cut with the boss? And where do you think the money for union dues comes from? Taxpayers ring a bell?
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a.)I took several jobs when I was younger where the wages were not negotiated by a union. I still received adequate and reasonable pay along with vacations comparable with those in unions doing the same job. The difference was, I didn't have to pay a union rep for anything. I showed up every day, did my job and didn't create problems. For that, I was fairly compensated.

b.) As a school board president that had to negotiate with the teachers and non-classified unions, I can tell you that the union regulations tied our hands when we wanted to recognize individuals that went over and above their job duties. We were not allowed to do anything for a superior performer than we did for the worst worker on the payroll. Also, I personally knew a few teachers and others in the school that didn't want anything to do with the union and would have left it if they could. I bet they are happy with this ruling.
a.) So did I....

b.) That might be true with teachers unions but, not with all the others....

The key is to decide your career and learn the industry and job requirements....
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The deals should already have been laid out to the employees who work with the respective company. What is this bullshlt about what "deals" the union thieves can cut with the boss? And where do you think the money for union dues comes from? Taxpayers ring a bell?
You have no clue to what collective bargaining is obviously...
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You have no clue to what collective bargaining is obviosly...
Do you have a clue as to what constitutes money from the taxpayers?
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a.) So did I....

b.) That might be true with teachers unions but, not with all the others....

The key is to decide your career and learn the industry and job requirements....
One's passion for employment should not be hindered by such arcane rules requiring someone else to negotiate with your employer.
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The ruling is good news. People shouldn't pay dues to unions they are not part of.What an employer pays an employee is between the employer and employee.

As for public sector unions I think it should be tax payers who get to vote on union contracts seeing how tax payers are the employers of those public sector employees. The ballot questions should contain what the unions want and how much it will cost the tax payers and what taxes will have to be raised to support those union demands. Although I am not too sure any public sector unions would want that
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The ruling is good news. People shouldn't pay dues to unions they are not part of.What an employer pays an employee is between the employer and employee.

As for public sector unions I think it should be tax payers who get to vote on union contracts seeing how tax payers are the employers of those public sector employees. The ballot questions should contain what the unions want and how much it will cost the tax payers and what taxes will have to be raised to support those union demands. Although I am not too sure any public sector unions would want that
The problem with public sector unions is that they are usually negotiating with some elected official(s) that is/are receiving campaign contributions from that same union. What's to negotiate? The more the elected official(s) can give them, the more they can receive in campaign contributions. It's a Win-Win with the taxpayer left picking up the tab.
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Public sector unions need to go the way of the dodo.
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Supreme Corut ruiled against the Unions forcing people to pay fees.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fo...r=010502ndz7l0

.............dealing a serious financial blow to organized labor.
The court's conservative majority scrapped a 41-year-old decision that had allowed states to require that public employees pay some fees to unions that represent them, even if the workers choose not to join........
If they don't join that's fair. If you join a union-any union- you have an obligation, and it's just common sense, to support that organization.
And by not joining the union, you forfeit any union representation.
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The problem with public sector unions is that they are usually negotiating with some elected official(s) that is/are receiving campaign contributions from that same union. What's to negotiate? The more the elected official(s) can give them, the more they can receive in campaign contributions. It's a Win-Win with the taxpayer left picking up the tab.
At the VA unions negotiate with the head of that hospital's admin for wages or whatever. Also there are third party negotiations through a non biased entity.
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