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Einstein's travel diaries reveal 'shocking' xenophobia

Private journals kept by the scientist and humanitarian icon show prejudiced attitudes towards the people he met while travelling in Asia

Tue 12 Jun 2018 12.32 EDT

The publication of Albert Einstein’s private diaries detailing his tour of Asia in the 1920s reveals the theoretical physicist and humanitarian icon’s racist attitudes to the people he met on his travels, particularly the Chinese.

Written between October 1922 and March 1923, the diaries see the scientist musing on his travels, science, philosophy and art. In China, the man who famously once described racism as “a disease of white people” describes the “industrious, filthy, obtuse people” he observes. He notes how the “Chinese don’t sit on benches while eating but squat like Europeans do when they relieve themselves out in the leafy woods. All this occurs quietly and demurely. Even the children are spiritless and look obtuse.” After earlier writing of the “abundance of offspring” and the “fecundity” of the Chinese, he goes on to say: “It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races. For the likes of us the mere thought is unspeakably dreary.”

Ze’ev Rosenkranz, senior editor and assistant director of the Einstein Papers Project at the California Institute of Technology, said: “I think a lot of comments strike us as pretty unpleasant – what he says about the Chinese in particular.

“They’re kind of in contrast to the public image of the great humanitarian icon. I think it’s quite a shock to read those and contrast them with his more public statements. They’re more off guard, he didn’t intend them for publication.”

Rosenkranz has edited and translated The Travel Diaries of Albert Einstein, which have just been published for the first time as a standalone volume by Princeton University Press, including facsimiles of the diary pages. The diaries have only previously been published in German as part of the 15-volume Collected Papers of Albert Einstein, with small supplementary translations into English. A spokesperson for Princeton University Press said: “This is the first time Einstein’s travel diary will be made available to anyone who isn’t a serious Einstein scholar.”

Further passages in the diaries, which are thought to have been written for Einstein’s stepdaughters in Berlin while he and his wife were travelling in Asia, Spain and Palestine, and as an aide memoire, see him writing of the Chinese that “even those reduced to working like horses never give the impression of conscious suffering. A peculiar herd-like nation [ … ] often more like automatons than people.” He later adds, in Rosenkranz’s words, “a healthy dose of extreme misogyny” to his xenophobia with the observation: “I noticed how little difference there is between men and women; I don’t understand what kind of fatal attraction Chinese women possess which enthrals the corresponding men to such an extent that they are incapable of defending themselves against the formidable blessing of offspring”.

In Colombo in Ceylon, Einstein writes of how the locals “live in great filth and considerable stench at ground level” adding that they “do little, and need little. The simple economic cycle of life.”

Einstein’s perceptions of the Japanese he meets are, in contrast, more positive: “Japanese unostentatious, decent, altogether very appealing,” he writes. “Pure souls as nowhere else among people. One has to love and admire this country.” But Rosenkranz points out that he also concludes that the “intellectual needs of this nation seem to be weaker than their artistic ones – natural disposition?”

“Einstein’s diary entries on the biological origin of the alleged intellectual inferiority of the Japanese, Chinese, and Indians are definitely not understated and can be viewed as racist – in these instances, other peoples are portrayed as being biologically inferior, a clear hallmark of racism. The disquieting comment that the Chinese may ‘supplant all other races’ is also most revealing in this regard,” writes Rosenkranz.

“Here, Einstein perceives a foreign ‘race’ as a threat, which … is one of the characteristics of a racist ideology. Yet the remark that must strike the modern reader as most offensive is his feigning not to understand how Chinese men can find their women sufficiently attractive to have offspring with them. In light of these instances, we must conclude that Einstein did make quite a few racist and dehumanising comments in the diary, some of which were extremely unpleasant.”

Rosenkranz told the Guardian that although views like Einstein’s were prevalent at the time, they were not universal. “That’s usually the reaction I get – ‘we have to understand, he was of the zeitgeist, part of the time’ – but I think I tried here and there to give a broader context. There were other views out there, more tolerant views,” he said.

In his introduction, Rosenkranz writes how it is important to explore how a humanist icon such as Einstein – whose image was once used for a UNHCR campaign with the slogan “A bundle of belongings isn’t the only thing a refugee brings to his new country. Einstein was a refugee” – could have written xenophobic comments about the peoples he encountered.

“The answer to this question seems very relevant in today’s world, in which the hatred of the other is so rampant in so many places around the world,” he writes. “It seems that even Einstein sometimes had a very hard time recognising himself in the face of the other.”
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I forget. What's xenophobia again?
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I'm not sure that I agree with all of the authors conclusions but that is a interesting read. Reminds me of when I did some reading on Ghandi who as it turns out was quite a snob and elitist which definitely is not the general perception of him today.
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I'm not sure that I agree with all of the authors conclusions but that is a interesting read. Reminds me of when I did some reading on Ghandi who as it turns out was quite a snob and elitist which definitely is not the general perception of him today.
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Pretty much every European had that opinion of the Asians at that point in time. The opinion was reciprocal.
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Uhm yeah. And he was also believed to have been bisexual too. Not that there is anything wrong with it. You might find that reading books and things other than the internet can really save you from embarrassing yourself.

Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?

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Uhm yeah. And he was also believed to have been bisexual too. Not that there is anything wrong with it. You might find that reading books and things other than the internet can really save you from embarrassing yourself.

Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34265882
I read biographies of Gandhi when I was 11. In the modern area revisited his story via the encyclopedia. (I love spelling that btw )
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I read biographies of Gandhi when I was 11. In the modern area revisited his story via the encyclopedia. (I love spelling that btw )
Yeah I did too, and of course saw the film with Ben Kingsley which sadly is where a lot of people these days get their info on Gandi. Having lived in Mumbai for five years I got to read a lot of eye opening material about him. In particular some of his writings while he was jailed revealed some interesting complaints from him about being housed with "lower class" people.

But really why should it come as a surprise that in a country that has a caste system to this day that this kind of attitude existed in the past?
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The BBC is a pretty reputable source.
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Yeah I did too, and of course saw the film with Ben Kingsley which sadly is where a lot of people these days get their info on Gandi. Having lived in Mumbai for five years I got to read a lot of eye opening material about him. In particular some of his writings while he was jailed revealed some interesting complaints from him about being housed with "lower class" people.

But really why should it come as a surprise that in a country that has a caste system to this day that this kind of attitude existed in the past?
what was eye opening about it for you?
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