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SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – There will soon be more focus on flushes and scrutiny over showers with a new law signed in by the governor.

California is now the first state in the nation to enact tough new water-efficiency standards. The controversial rules limit how many gallons a person can use inside their home per day.

“So that everyone in California is at least integrating efficiency into our preparations for climate change,” said Felicia Marcus, Chair of the State Water Resources Control Board.

So, what are the new rules?

In 2022, the new indoor water standard will be 55 gallons per person, per day. by 2030, it will fall to 50 gallons.

“With a child and every day having to wash clothes, that’s, just my opinion, not feasible. But I get it and I understand that we’re trying to preserve…but 55 gallons a day?” said Tanya Allen, who has a 4-year-old daughter.

Just how many gallons do household chores take?

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An 8-minute shower uses about 17 gallons of water, a load of laundry up to 40, and a bathtub can hold 80 to 100 gallons of water.

“She likes to bathe three times a day and she does laundry all day,” said Rocka Mitchell from Texas.

He and his wife Ginger are living in Sacramento for work and say it would be hard to conserve.

“I couldn’t do it. My family is way too large,” she said.

Retrofitting homes with water-efficient fixtures could help cut back.

“I think the average new home is 35 gallons per person per day, so we are not talking emergency conservation here,” Marcus said.

Greg Bundesen with the Sacramento Suburban Water District says they already assist customers.

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“We offer toilet rebates, we offer complementary showerheads, we offer complementary faucets,” he said.

The new laws also require water districts to perform stress tests of their water supply and curb loss due to leaks.

“Right now we lose up to 30 percent of urban water just to leaks in the system,” Marcus said.

Agencies believe fixing those leaks and educating residents is the key.

“Some people may not be aware that you’re going to use a lot more water in a bath and you wouldn’t shower and it’s our job to make sure they’re informed,” Bundesen said.

Water districts who don’t comply face fines up to $10,000 a day.

The ultimate goal is to make conservation a way of life in California. Outdoor water use is also covered by the new laws.

Standards will be based on a region’s climate and other factors instead of just one standard for the whole state.
Lol, you couldn't pay me to live in California.
Poor Mikey, he won't be able to shower on the days he does his laundry.
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Yes and so what is your point?
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btw a shower takes more water than a bath. just fyi
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btw a shower takes more water than a bath. just fyi
No, it doesn't. Not necessarily.
It depends on the length of the shower, and the flow of water. Shower heads can usually allow anywhere between 2.5 and 5 gallons of water a minute. Most baths require 30-50 gallons of water. To save energy the length of the shower x, multiplied by the water flow y, must equal less than the amount of water used in the bath.


The assumption that showers are for ten minutes is just that, an assumption. I use less than 3 minutes of water. Not to save it but because I seldom have more time. That, I believe, is true of most people.

You have information to the contrary?

Please, Post it.

The water shortage in Southern California is the result of development, not the result of environmental factors. They have been stealing water from the north, from Nevada and New Mexico for decades. And now the Colorado river doesn't even reach the sea. Meaning Mexico doesn't get any of it.

California is not only running our of other people's money, it is running our of other people's water.

I'm willing to bet those big luxurious swimming pools lay very near large the 120 gallon fossil fuel burning hot tubs and whirlpool baths up in the mansions. Those will get filled no matter what. And the average Californian has to do without.
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No, it doesn't. Not necessarily.
It depends on the length of the shower, and the flow of water. Shower heads can usually allow anywhere between 2.5 and 5 gallons of water a minute. Most baths require 30-50 gallons of water. To save energy the length of the shower x, multiplied by the water flow y, must equal less than the amount of water used in the bath.


The assumption that showers are for ten minutes is just that, an assumption. I use less than 3 minutes of water. Not to save it but because I seldom have more time. That, I believe, is true of most people.

You have information to the contrary?

Please, Post it.

The water shortage in Southern California is the result of development, not the result of environmental factors. They have been stealing water from the north, from Nevada and New Mexico for decades. And now the Colorado river doesn't even reach the sea. Meaning Mexico doesn't get any of it.

California is not only running our of other people's money, it is running our of other people's water.

I'm willing to bet those big luxurious swimming pools lay very near large the 120 gallon fossil fuel burning hot tubs and whirlpool baths up in the mansions. Those will get filled no matter what. And the average Californian has to do without.
Yea most people take long showers unless they are running late imho. But yeah these tubs nowadays in most apts and housing the majority of people live in are not as big as in the 50s and before. Water going down the drain as you try to soap up and factor in the first, "AH" as you just stand there enjoying the hot stream. A bathtub filled half or three quarters full is a one and done!
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Pendejos deserve to live with that crap. Vote the SOBs out of your lives, people.
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Yea most people take long showers unless they are running late imho. But yeah these tubs nowadays in most apts and housing the majority of people live in are not as big as in the 50s and before. Water going down the drain as you try to soap up and factor in the first, "AH" as you just stand there enjoying the hot stream. A bathtub filled half or three quarters full is a one and done!
Federal regulations already limit shower head flows to 2.5 gallons per minute. So the 5 gal GPM figure used in the example is a deceit.
Bathtubs are available in many sizes, a typical size being 30 inches wide and 60 inches long. The inside measurements of this tub could be 23 inches wide, 15 inches deep to the water level and 54 inches long. This tub holds about 80 gallons of water. If this is an extra deep tub, it might hold up to 110 gallons. Once again, the example given was deceitful

The issue comes with high end showers that have multiple shower heads. Those elite showers in expensive mansions and homes with swimming pools, soaker tubs, and hot tubs.

But the average abode being built these days has a 2.5 GPM shower head and a 1.5 gal per toilet next to an 80 gallon bath tub. With that one needs two flushes and maybe ten minutes in the shower to get clean. I am not sure how that "saves" water.
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Federal regulations already limit shower head flows to 2.5 gallons per minute. So the 5 gal GPM figure used in the example is a deceit.
Bathtubs are available in many sizes, a typical size being 30 inches wide and 60 inches long. The inside measurements of this tub could be 23 inches wide, 15 inches deep to the water level and 54 inches long. This tub holds about 80 gallons of water. If this is an extra deep tub, it might hold up to 110 gallons. Once again, the example given was deceitful

The issue comes with high end showers that have multiple shower heads. Those elite showers in expensive mansions and homes with swimming pools, soaker tubs, and hot tubs.

But the average abode being built these days has a 2.5 GPM shower head and a 1.5 gal per toilet next to an 80 gallon bath tub. With that one needs two flushes and maybe ten minutes in the shower to get clean. I am not sure how that "saves" water.
You have a point. I think the best policy in today's world is don't use any more than necessary, and be mindful of what you are doing . But that is true with almost any resource.
btw any blue collar dude with tools can improve mom's shower head flow.
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Lol, you couldn't pay me to live in California.
Poor Mikey, he won't be able to shower on the days he does his laundry.
Funny how you don't hear them talking about the reason they need to conserve. Too many people for the resources available. Here in southern Nevada we keep seeing Lake Mead go down, down, down to the point we are starting to worry. But we NEVER hear them talk about a building moratorium to keep things steady till they figure it out. Soon they will have to rely on the Paiutes.
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Funny how you don't hear them talking about the reason they need to conserve. Too many people for the resources available. Here in southern Nevada we keep seeing Lake Mead go down, down, down to the point we are starting to worry. But we NEVER hear them talk about a building moratorium to keep things steady till they figure it out. Soon they will have to rely on the Paiutes.
Exactly. They need to do a fly over and drop birth control into every teenage girl's milk, not to mention the pope should at last allow birth control, and mormons and evangelicals need to do some sermons on how the Lord helps those who help themselves (not strictly biblical but I'm certain if God had looked into the future at how his fruitful commandment played out today he would have pulled back on that ).
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