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They pretended their drop in viewership was something else.

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Also holy sh-t! Not only do we have a president approving of mandated displays of patriotism under threat of a fine, he also thinks protesters should leave the country.

What an unamerican president we have.
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I don't think the NFL gets it at all. What is offered is intended as some sort of compromise. Compromise is not enough to stop the bleed. Especially if the owners tell their players to ignore the ruling and the owners will pay the fines.

For me there are three options.

Everybody on the field while the anthem is played. And standing respectfully.
The anthem is not played.
Nobody on the field while the anthem is played and the players make the grand entrance after the playing.
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Also holy sh-t! Not only do we have a president approving of mandated displays of patriotism under threat of a fine, he also thinks protesters should leave the country.

What an unamerican president we have.
Standing for the presentation of the flag is not a mandatory display of patriotism, it is simple showing of respect to the nation. According to the NFL'S policy if it's just too much trouble to stand you can stay in the locker room . Heaven forbid the protesters should be deprived of the opportunity to Express their hatred towards the country that gave them the opportunity or offend the fans that pay their salary.

Remember what the Governor of Virginia said before the protestors had their legal rally in Charlottesville? They don't belong in this country. He then deployed the state police to funnel protesters and counter protestors together in the park then withdrew state troopers when the riot broke out. But it's all good the governor is a close ally of the Clinton's.
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Also holy sh-t! Not only do we have a president approving of mandated displays of patriotism under threat of a fine, he also thinks protesters should leave the country.

What an unamerican president we have.
You call it "Un-American?"
Quite the opposite.

America was built for Americans, about Americans, and by Americans who often died trying, not for those who wish to tear it down.

As for protestors, he is usually referring to anti American protestors. Who have a right to speak but not necessarily a right to be respected when they destroy property to get across their "message."

Once again, Reflexive Tendentiousness from the always left anti Trumper's who paint anything Trump says with a broad brush.


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Also holy sh-t! Not only do we have a president approving of mandated displays of patriotism under threat of a fine, he also thinks protesters should leave the country.
What an unamerican president we have.
Police (representatives from the government) falsely arrest a man in his own house without cause. The president comments on it. The right screams he should stay out of it.

NFL players kneel in protest. President comments on it. The right echo his sentiment...

I remember discussions claiming that military members were not saluting Clinton and/or Obama and some on the right simply proclaimed it as a sign of how bad the president was.
But an NFL player kneels for the national anthem???




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America was built for Americans, about Americans, and by Americans who often died trying, not for those who wish to tear it down.
Where the hell do you get the conclusion that these people protesting "wish to tear it down"???


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Also holy sh-t! Not only do we have a president approving of mandated displays of patriotism under threat of a fine, he also thinks protesters should leave the country.
What an unamerican president we have.

Trump is just giving his opinion, he will not be trying to pass any legislation on your items of worry.

This isn't about Trump anyway, this is about Americans protesting the protest.

If they worked for me, and they hurt my business for personal reasons, I would be forced to let them go.

Unless things change quick, we will see the NFL continue to fade. And that is sad to think that a handful of people will hurt an organization with thousands of employees. How will the kneelers act when teams start cutting back jobs of people that did not kneel?
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I don't think the NFL gets it at all. What is offered is intended as some sort of compromise. Compromise is not enough to stop the bleed. Especially if the owners tell their players to ignore the ruling and the owners will pay the fines.

For me there are three options.

Everybody on the field while the anthem is played. And standing respectfully.
The anthem is not played.
Nobody on the field while the anthem is played and the players make the grand entrance after the playing.
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Yes, if owners pay the fines and allow the kneeling, fans will continue to flee.
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You call it "Un-American?"
Yes. I think a president that says folks who protest, and we're talking about the NFL kneeling, respectful, peaceful, unobtrusive, silent protest, should leave the country is unamerican. This dumbass hasn't a clue how our country works.

Never once heard Obama say anything remotely close to that during the Tea Party protest season or any of the other times we had protests during his tenure.

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Quite the opposite.

America was built for Americans, about Americans, and by Americans who often died trying, not for those who wish to tear it down.
Nobody's trying to tear America down by kneeling in front of the flag to protest police brutality.

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As for protestors, he is usually referring to anti American protestors. Who have a right to speak but not necessarily a right to be respected when they destroy property to get across their "message."
In this case he was referring to the folks kneeling before football games. Not Anti-American at all.
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Police (representatives from the government) falsely arrest a man in his own house without cause. The president comments on it. The right screams he should stay out of it.

NFL players kneel in protest. President comments on it. The right echo his sentiment...

I remember discussions claiming that military members were not saluting Clinton and/or Obama and some on the right simply proclaimed it as a sign of how bad the president was.
But an NFL player kneels for the national anthem???





Where the hell do you get the conclusion that these people protesting "wish to tear it down"???


Cambridge police dispatched a rainbow coalition of officers in response to reports of a possible burglary at the Gates home. The senior officer was white. One officer was black. The other Hispanic. All of the officers agreed with the decision to arrest the home owner after he refused to stop screaming at the officers including racist epithets. The officers "crime" was arresting one of Obama's favorite professors. Charles Ogletree another Obama professor marshalled political connections to get Skip Gates charges dropped.

President Obama received so much backlash for his unjustified attack on police as racist he had to issue a "clarification" backing away from his initial criticism and conducting the so-called beer summit.

Players kneeling fo so in solidarity with the sentiment that police are racists wantonly gunning down black men in the street with no punishment beyond suspension with pay. I paraphrased but that's the essence. Never mind that the most notorious incidents such as hands up don't shoot are fabricated, any excuse to hate the country is a valid grievance.

Yes, people object to the President Obama's false attack on the police and the false attack on the police and the nation as racists wantonly slaughtering blacks with no consequences.
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