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Gotta be weird to be arrested 31 years later when you're sure you got away with it.

DNA leads to arrest in Washington cold-case murder of young couple

A 55-year-old man has been arrested in a 31-year-old cold case involving a young couple murdered in Washington state.

Detectives from the Snohomish County and Skagit County Sheriff’s Offices arrested William Talbott for the November 1987 murders of 20-year-old Jay Cook and 18-year-old Tanya Van Cuylenborg, the Skagit County Sheriff’s Office said Thursday.

He was ordered held on $2 million bond after a court appearance Friday, Q13 Fox reported.

“We never gave up hope that we would find Jay and Tanya’s killer,” Snohomish County Sheriff Ty Trenary said Friday. “Yesterday’s arrest shows how powerful it can be to combine new DNA technology with the relentless determination of detectives.”

Investigators tapped a public genealogy website to match crime scene DNA. The analysis was performed by Parabon, a Virginia company.

The sheriff’s office said Talbott is the first murder suspect to be arrested using results from Parabon’s genetic genealogy service, which became generally available less than two weeks ago. A digital file containing DNA genotype data derived from evidence at the crime scene was uploaded to GEDMatch, a public genetic genealogy website, and promising matches were found for two of the suspect’s relatives, the sheriff’s office said.

Authorities used GEDMatch to arrest a suspect in the Northern California’s notorious “Golden State Killer” case. From 1976 to 1986, the Golden State Killer murdered 12 people, raped 45 others, and burglarized more than 100 homes.

Van Cuylenborg and Cook left their Saanich, British Columbia, homes on Nov. 18, 1987, for an overnight trip to Seattle. They were driving a brown 1977 Ford van to buy furnace parts for Cook's family business.

When they failed to return home, their families reported them missing.

On Nov. 24 of that year, a man walking on an isolated road south of Bellingham, Washington, discovered Van Cuylenborg's body. She had been sexually assaulted, bound with plastic ties and shot in the head, investigators said.

Cook's battered body turned up the next day about two miles south of Monroe, Washington. The two locations where the bodies were found are about 75 miles apart.

Police were able to obtain DNA from the van.

In April, police released composite sketches of the killer that Parabon created based on the the DNA evidence.

John Van Cuylenborg told a radio talk show that he almost gave up hope his sister’s killer would be found, Global News in Vancouver reported.

“After a while you have to sort of adjust to the fact that it seems as though the case is never going to be solved, and that probably would be true if it wasn’t for these advancements in DNA techniques,” he said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.



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Some new DNA testing recently developed is hopeful to solve (at last) the Zodiac.
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I have yet to get my hands on the contract that comes with the DNA sampling kits that people buy.

Are they being told that their samples are part of a database? Do they actually give explicit permission for their DNA sample to be part of the database?

I won't be donating a sample, other than what they already may have from a medical study.
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I have yet to get my hands on the contract that comes with the DNA sampling kits that people buy.

Are they being told that their samples are part of a database? Do they actually give explicit permission for their DNA sample to be part of the database?

I won't be donating a sample, other than what they already may have from a medical study.
Haven't perused the paperwork either. The problem is, it's not necessarily your DNA they can use. A family member placing their DNA in any of these sites can get you linked by association. Example: Your daughter sends her DNA in. The police get a partial hit on a cold case from 1970. On further investigation, they come looking for that really lunatic brother you had who disappeared back in 79.
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Haven't perused the paperwork either. The problem is, it's not necessarily your DNA they can use. A family member placing their DNA in any of these sites can get you linked by association. Example: Your daughter sends her DNA in. The police get a partial hit on a cold case from 1970. On further investigation, they come looking for that really lunatic brother you had who disappeared back in 79.
I do understand the familial lineage of DNA, and yes, I can be linked to my Looney Uncle Louie.

My questions are do people who are voluntarily submit their DNA, understand that it is being entered in to database that is being used for more then their reason for submitting it? Are Warrants being obtained to do specific searches, or are they generalized match ups that peruses all DNA samples in the database?

While those that are receiving closure on old cold cases are feeling relief, and criminals who thought they skated are finding that they can and will be found, but at what cost of privacy?
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I do understand the familial lineage of DNA, and yes, I can be linked to my Looney Uncle Louie.

My questions are do people who are voluntarily submit their DNA, understand that it is being entered in to database that is being used for more then their reason for submitting it? Are Warrants being obtained to do specific searches, or are they generalized match ups that peruses all DNA samples in the database?

While those that are receiving closure on old cold cases are feeling relief, and criminals who thought they skated are finding that they can and will be found, but at what cost of privacy?
From the little I understand (we have a gene research center here) you give up ownership of the DNA when you ship it to one of these labs.
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