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Old 05-12-2018, 04:01 PM
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Default Obama admin. spied on Trump campaign more than previously known, set ‘spy traps,’ new

If true this is a huge bombshell. I'm talkin' like one of the biggest political stories in recent memory.

Sad part is this isn't at all surprising coming from the Obama admin.

Obama admin. spied on Trump campaign more than previously known, set ‘spy traps,’ new reporting says

Following Kimberly Strassel’s bombshell reporting at the Wall Street Journal that alleges the FBI may have placed a spy in the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election, a well-known investigative reporter dropped another bomb.

Paul Sperry, who writes for RealClearPolitics and the New York Post, reported Friday the Obama administration set spy “traps” for low-level officials in the Trump campaign.

First, what did Strassel report?

The Justice Department and FBI has long maintained it opened a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign after it received a tip about drunken rumblings from then-Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos.

That claim was called into question this week after House officials won a battle with the DOJ to review information that is so top-secret that the agency claimed lives would be in danger if more eyes viewed it. In particular, they claimed a U.S. citizen, who has provided intelligence for the FBI and CIA, would be put at risk.


However, House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) and Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) were eventually granted a classified briefing. This development alone holds “stunning implications,” Strassel reported.

First, she said it showed the DOJ has long been hiding important information from House investigators, information House Speaker Paul Ryan said Congress is entitled to. Second, it shows the DOJ may have embedded a spy in Trump’s campaign.

Strassel reported:

Thanks to the Washington Post’s unnamed law-enforcement leakers, we know Mr. Nunes’s request deals with a “top secret intelligence source” of the FBI and CIA, who is a U.S. citizen and who was involved in the Russia collusion probe. When government agencies refer to sources, they mean people who appear to be average citizens but use their profession or contacts to spy for the agency.

Ergo, we might take this to mean that the FBI secretly had a person on the payroll who used his or her non-FBI credentials to interact in some capacity with the Trump campaign. This would amount to spying, and it is hugely disconcerting.

With that information in hand, Strassel explained it’s important to learn when the CIA or FBI placed its informant in the Trump campaign or first made contact with the person. If it was before the Papadopoulos tip — which the DOJ says spurred the investigation — then “then the FBI isn’t being straight. It would mean the bureau was spying on the Trump campaign prior to that moment.”

Any clues as to who the informant is?

Strassel said she believes she is aware of the spy’s identity, though she was unable to receive confirmation on her suspicions and thus didn’t report the name. Other news outlets, like ZeroHedge, have speculated as to who the person possibly could be.

What did Sperry report?

He said on Friday that former Secretary of State John Kerry, senior FBI agent Peter Strzok and former CIA Director John Brennan set “Russian espionage traps” for low-level campaign aides in the Trump campaign.

He did not offer additional details, but has been reporting on the story, including the shadiness surrounding the DOJ’s handing of the Christopher Steele dossier, for months.

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If true this is a huge bombshell. I'm talkin' like one of the biggest political stories in recent memory.

Sad part is this isn't at all surprising coming from the Obama admin.

Obama admin. spied on Trump campaign more than previously known, set ‘spy traps,’ new reporting says

Following Kimberly Strassel’s bombshell reporting at the Wall Street Journal that alleges the FBI may have placed a spy in the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election, a well-known investigative reporter dropped another bomb.

Paul Sperry, who writes for RealClearPolitics and the New York Post, reported Friday the Obama administration set spy “traps” for low-level officials in the Trump campaign.

First, what did Strassel report?

The Justice Department and FBI has long maintained it opened a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign after it received a tip about drunken rumblings from then-Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos.

That claim was called into question this week after House officials won a battle with the DOJ to review information that is so top-secret that the agency claimed lives would be in danger if more eyes viewed it. In particular, they claimed a U.S. citizen, who has provided intelligence for the FBI and CIA, would be put at risk.


However, House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) and Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) were eventually granted a classified briefing. This development alone holds “stunning implications,” Strassel reported.

First, she said it showed the DOJ has long been hiding important information from House investigators, information House Speaker Paul Ryan said Congress is entitled to. Second, it shows the DOJ may have embedded a spy in Trump’s campaign.

Strassel reported:

Thanks to the Washington Post’s unnamed law-enforcement leakers, we know Mr. Nunes’s request deals with a “top secret intelligence source” of the FBI and CIA, who is a U.S. citizen and who was involved in the Russia collusion probe. When government agencies refer to sources, they mean people who appear to be average citizens but use their profession or contacts to spy for the agency.

Ergo, we might take this to mean that the FBI secretly had a person on the payroll who used his or her non-FBI credentials to interact in some capacity with the Trump campaign. This would amount to spying, and it is hugely disconcerting.

With that information in hand, Strassel explained it’s important to learn when the CIA or FBI placed its informant in the Trump campaign or first made contact with the person. If it was before the Papadopoulos tip — which the DOJ says spurred the investigation — then “then the FBI isn’t being straight. It would mean the bureau was spying on the Trump campaign prior to that moment.”

Any clues as to who the informant is?

Strassel said she believes she is aware of the spy’s identity, though she was unable to receive confirmation on her suspicions and thus didn’t report the name. Other news outlets, like ZeroHedge, have speculated as to who the person possibly could be.

What did Sperry report?

He said on Friday that former Secretary of State John Kerry, senior FBI agent Peter Strzok and former CIA Director John Brennan set “Russian espionage traps” for low-level campaign aides in the Trump campaign.

He did not offer additional details, but has been reporting on the story, including the shadiness surrounding the DOJ’s handing of the Christopher Steele dossier, for months.

Hold on, let's get some facts straight before proceeding.

First and foremost the DOJ and FBI have a strict prohibition against sharing any information related to an ongoing criminal investigation that's backed by precedent. The revealing of information related to an ongoing criminal investigation can cause serious harm to the integrity of the investigation as well as being damaging to individuals that are innocent of any wrongdoing that might be investigated during the criminal investigation.

The US Congressional oversight of the DOJ and FBI is limited to post investigation information from the criminal investigation. To seek this information while the investigation is ongoing can be a form of obstruction of justice (e.g. if a GOP member of the House Judiciary or Intelligence Committee were to receive this highly sensitive information related to an ongoing criminal investigation from the DOJ or FBI and provide that information to a "suspect" of the investigation it would be obstruction of justice.).

The GOP requests for information from the DOJ related to the FBI - Mueller investigation into Russian intervention and possible related crimes by members of the Trump campaign/administration, that's an ongoing criminal investigation, is highly improper.

Next is that while George Papadopoulos knew that Russian intelligence had emails from the Clinton campaign and DNC at least a month before anyone else, and that this information was almost certainly shared with the Trump campaign that hadn't reported it to the FBI, and that the FBI launched the investigation into the Trump campaign after this became known, Papadopoulos was not the only reason for the FBI investigation of the Trump campaign.

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper had reported to Congress that the UK and other European allies had been reporting suspicious contacts between members of the Trump campaign and Russians since 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSkb...ature=youtu.be

Former CIA Director John Brennan had also expressed concerns based upon CIA intercepts.

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Former CIA Director John Brennan, in testimony Tuesday before the House Intelligence Committee, said that he was concerned by some of the "interactions" between Russian officials and members of the Trump campaign that took place during the election last year.

Brennan later confirmed to Democratic Rep. Mike Quigley that it wasn't just the fact that Trump campaign officials communicated with Russians that concerned him — it was which Russians the Trump associates spoke to.
John Brennan testifies on Russia-Trump collusion - Business Insider

We can also add that Paul Manafort was the Director for the Trump Campaign and it was common knowledge in Washington that Manafort was a Russian lobbyist (Manafort later registered as being a Russian lobbyist during his time with the Trump campaign). We also know now that some of the questionable contacts the CIA intercepts revealed were probably between the Trump campaign and GRU (Russian Intelligence) were from Campaign Deputy Director Rick Gates that was in continuous contact with a former GRU officer during 2016. The CIA might also have intercept information related to Michael Cohen, Trump's private attorney, that was highly involved with the Russians during 2016 and may have actually paid the Russian hackers during a visit to Prague.

There was substantial intelligence pointing to possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian prior to the launch of the investigation in late July 2016. If nothing else the failure of the Trump campaign to notify the FBI when it learned of the hacked DNC/Clinton campaign emails even though Jeff Sessions, a sitting Senator and top member of the Trump campaign, presented serious suspicions of possible cover-up of nefarious criminal activities between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

Did the FBI send a "mole" into the Trump campaign to see what they could find out? Possibly but there was more than enough evidence of possible criminal activity to justify that action by the FBI.

In any case this is information related to an ongoing criminal investigation where the DOJ and FBI cannot reveal any information until after the criminal investigation is complete. If there was any wrongdoing by the DOJ or FBI (highly unlikely) then we'll find out about it when the criminal investigation is complete.
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