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Thank. Fuqing. God.

Was a terrible deal in the first place (thanks Obama). Needed to be axed. Just took someone with the nuggets to do it. And we all know Trump isn't afraid to drive off the pc road and do the right thing.

Trump expected to withdraw from Iran nuclear deal

Vice President Pence has told congressional leaders that President Trump plans to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, Fox News has learned.

A source said that Trump has made the decision to withdraw – and his announcement Tuesday afternoon will start a 90-day countdown to the restoration of sanctions.

Once sanctions are re-imposed, the U.S. effectively would be out of the deal.

It's not clear which sanctions lifted under the deal Trump plans to immediately re-impose. He has several options. A more limited move could leave Trump more room to potentially stay in the deal if other members agree to toughen it.

If he follows through on a sweeping imposition of sanctions, the move threatens to topple the Iran nuclear agreement as a whole – and with it, his predecessor’s signature foreign policy achievement.

The president began briefing foreign and congressional leaders on his decision ahead of his 2 p.m. announcement.

And he started the day by warning former Secretary of State John Kerry not to meddle in the negotiations.

“John Kerry can’t get over the fact that he had his chance and blew it! Stay away from negotiations John, you are hurting your country!” Trump tweeted early Tuesday.

This was a reference to reports that Kerry was meeting with foreign officials in a bid to salvage the pact. Speaking at a summit Tuesday in Italy, Kerry did not back down, saying the Middle East is “safer with this agreement” and framing this juncture as a choice between peace and war.

Trump’s announcement comes ahead of a May 12 deadline to make a decision on sanctions.

It follows efforts by European allies to convince Trump to keep the deal, even with changes.

But Trump reportedly was unconvinced. Since the 2016 presidential campaign, he has railed against the agreement and its Obama administration negotiators.

The 2015 pact lifted most U.S. and international sanctions against the country, in exchange for Iran agreeing to restrictions on its nuclear program making it impossible to produce a bomb, along with rigorous inspections – terms generally set for 10-15 years.

But Israel, Gulf Arab states and many congressional Republicans said the deal was a giveaway to Tehran that ultimately paves the path to a nuclear-armed Iran several years in the future.

“Perhaps the nuclear deal’s most unforgivable flaw is that its original architects chose to stand with and empower Iran’s mullahs over the Iranian people, whose opposition to their corrupt and criminal government continues to grow,” Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., wrote in a Fox News op-ed urging Trump to abandon the pact and ratchet up sanctions.

But Trump’s decision could lead to retaliation from Iran in the near-term.

If the deal collapses, Iran could resume prohibited enrichment activities, while businesses and banks doing business with Iran would have to scramble to extricate themselves or run afoul of the U.S.

While Trump himself was tight-lipped about his decision in the run-up to the announcement, Iranian officials also were left guessing.

In Tehran, President Hassan Rouhani sought to calm nerves. "It is possible that we will face some problems for two or three months, but we will pass through this," Rouhani said.

Rouhani earlier warned of “grave” consequences if Trump pulled back on the agreement.

Obama foreign policy adviser Ben Rhodes, who played a key role in the deal, also tweeted that “Trump is blowing that up with no understanding of what's actually in the Deal, no plan for what comes next, and no support from our closest European allies, Russia or China.”

A factor leading to Tuesday’s decision may have been Israel’s public lobbying. A week ago, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appealed to the U.S. president by making explosive allegations that new evidence proved Tehran had lied about its nuclear program and adherence to the pact.

But even Trump's secretary of state and the U.N. agency that monitors nuclear compliance have agreed that Iran, so far, has lived up to its side of the deal.

Fox News’ John Roberts and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Yeah, thank fuqing God Trump is going to violate an agreement with Iran, weaken trust in the US around the world, and basically tell Iran that future negotiations should be dismissed and go ahead with restarting their nuclear program.

Trump is a piece of sh-t, and no, he doesnt have "nuggets".
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Yeah, thank fuqing God Trump is going to violate an agreement with Iran, weaken trust in the US around the world, and basically tell Iran that future negotiations should be dismissed and go ahead with restarting their nuclear program.
(1) The agreement was based upon a lie; and yes, I am more than happy to "violate an agreement with Iran"--especially since it was never approved by the US Senate. (Then-President Obama knew that he could never get it through the Senate; so--as usual--he did the executive-order thing.)

(2) I care not one nickel about world opinion.

(3) And I also care not one whit about "future negotiations" with Iran--and deeply hope that there are none in the future.
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Probably the best thing about this action, in my opinion, is the fact that Kim Jong-un, of North Korea, will know that the US will not appease America-hating dictatorships, under this administration...
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(1) The agreement was based upon a lie
Ding ding ding! Iran had sanctions against them lifted and could still churn away with their nuclear program because there were no serious inspections implemented.

Only Obama could come up with an idea as asinine as that.

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Another ding-a-ding-dingy. That's the prob with libs: they care more 'bout how the world sees us than actual results. It's one reason they can't stand Trump. Trump doesn't give one flying fuq how the world perceives us. He's only interested in results and makin' America the best it can be.
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(1) The agreement was based upon a lie; and yes, I am more than happy to "violate an agreement with Iran"--especially since it was never approved by the US Senate. (Then-President Obama knew that he could never get it through the Senate; so--as usual--he did the executive-order thing.)

(2) I care not one nickel about world opinion.

(3) And I also care not one whit about "future negotiations" with Iran--and deeply hope that there are none in the future.
Isn't this the agreement that Iran never bothered to sign, but Obama gave them pallet loads of cash anyway?

If so, what agreement?
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Yeah, thank fuqing God Trump is going to violate an agreement with Iran, weaken trust in the US around the world, and basically tell Iran that future negotiations should be dismissed and go ahead with restarting their nuclear program.

Trump is a piece of sh-t, and no, he doesnt have "nuggets".
It was Obama's decision to declare this an agreement with the Death to America Iranian theocracy rather than a treaty. An agreement doesn't require Senate confirmation but can be repealed at the President's will. Trump can be blamed if you don't like him dumping the sham agreement but Obama is responsible for creating the situation where the President can do it.

Trump has consistently criticized the agreement as one of the worst in history. Assuming he follows through and dumps the agreement he'll just be doing what he promised.
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It was Obama's decision to declare this an agreement with the Death to America Iranian theocracy rather than a treaty. An agreement doesn't require Senate confirmation but can be repealed at the President's will. Trump can be blamed if you don't like him dumping the sham agreement but Obama is responsible for creating the situation where the President can do it.

Trump has consistently criticized the agreement as one of the worst in history. Assuming he follows through and dumps the agreement he'll just be doing what he promised.
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It's DONE!
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/don...0-2cf121701c56

One more campaign promise kept.

The left is apoplexic,,,
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Yeah, thank fuqing God Trump is going to violate an agreement with Iran, weaken trust in the US around the world, and basically tell Iran that future negotiations should be dismissed and go ahead with restarting their nuclear program.

Trump is a piece of sh-t, and no, he doesnt have "nuggets".
Trust in America does not equate to trust in the scumbag Obama and his deal makers. Trump may not have "nuggets", but he has plenty of snowflakes following him around like east coast flies.

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