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Old 05-16-2018, 05:44 PM
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I'm going to stop you right there.
You have quoted three distinct statements from me and claimed "no" when the truth is all three are verifiably true.

So you pick ONE of the above statements (and I'm doing you a favor by allowing you to pick just one) that you are willing to defend your claim that I am wrong and we'll discuss it with evidence. (If you want to discuss all three, we can do that too. There is obviously overlap there...)
And no reply from Joe on this...
While I never claimed to be an arbiter of cowardly actions, I leave it to the viewing audience to recognize how often Joe abandons challenges based on his claims and how often he demands others answer his questions...


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Yes, you gave the sizes of the BSA and Trail Life. And I showed the BSA is falling and has been mostly for awhile.
Which was irrelevant to my point.


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Incidentally, you say it did nothing "disprove your point", but in fact you never even stated a point when you posted those #s.
You'll have to forgive me when I don't realize when you don't recognize the obvious...
I know your reading comprehension failures are obviously my fault.



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You just stuck a bunch of numbers up as if they showed anything much to begin with.
Just out of curiosity, do you realize your mindless assessment can also be applied to you?



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And if you were only showing one is having much higher numbers, the relevance of that no longer carries much weight since I've shown how the BSA has basically been in a state of free-fall, membership-wise.
Jesus Christ Joe. Stop blindly saying things that sound good and think about it.
You claim "BSA has basically been in a state of free-fall".
From 1998 to 2012, you show a drop of a few hundred thousand at a time when the BSA changed nothing towards the left and the BSA stuck with the right's desired policies on issues like gays, transgender and girls in the scouts.

From 2012 to current, they have gained 100,000 members.
That's not "free-fall". From 2012 to current, they have gained members.
And from 2012 to current, that is when the BSA has implemented at least two policies that have had the right throwing hissy fits.
* Gays in the scouts
* Transgender in the scouts
During the time-frame they actually changed these policies towards the left and gained 100,000 members
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From 2012 to current, they have gained 100,000 members.
That's not "free-fall". From 2012 to current, they have gained members.
We already covered this numerous posts ago .... I repeat, "The fact they had a 100,000 member slight barb on the hockey-stick doesn't even remotely make up for all that."
As for the part where you still want to argue side stuff, no one has time for all your rabbit chases. Stick to the point where things started.
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We already covered this numerous posts ago ....
It's amusing that you say "we already covered this". Because you're not admitting the true cycle.
You stated something.
I replied.
You avoided my response.
And then you circle back to repeat yourself while ignoring what I previously told you...


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I repeat, "The fact they had a 100,000 member slight barb on the hockey-stick doesn't even remotely make up for all that."
First off, don't think it hasn't gone unnoticed that you have dropped the whole "influence of the left" blame game crap. It was an amusing contradiction as you tried to blame the "influence of the left" while at the same time trying to argue that you weren't saying it was the right that was doing that and leaving. At least you finally recognized how bad that argument was.

Secondly, It doesn't have to make up for all that.
YOU are the only one who thinks that aspect of 1998 to 2012 is somehow important to anything. Earlier you were trying to claim it was important to demonstrate a consequence of "influence of the left", but you've since stopped saying that.
It has no relevance to this thread.
Has no relevance to what I said.

You have dropped so many arguments you are left trying to crow about some meaningless thing that doesn't even apply to anything anybody is saying.

And what's even more amusing, earlier you were admitting that you didn't know what my point was in giving those numbers, but somehow you seem damned convinced that your graph somehow means something...
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This is so sad. There's nothing wrong with having separate Boy Scout and Girl Scout organizations, but the left wants to eliminate the whole concept of gender.
When I heard this I was like: WTH??

And btw it's not THE left It's a few A-holes just as a few of those muck up the right
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When I heard this I was like: WTH??

And btw it's not THE left It's a few A-holes just as a few of those muck up the right
You may be correct, but when these few on the left do this, it is incumbent upon those on the left that feel differently to speak up and against this stupidity. That seems to be the problem that the left will all march together regardless of their personal beliefs.
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You may be correct, but when these few on the left do this, it is incumbent upon those on the left that feel differently to speak up and against this stupidity. That seems to be the problem that the left will all march together regardless of their personal beliefs.
Sadly, this is seen on both sides.
The current sitting president being one prime example.
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Sadly, this is seen on both sides.
The current sitting president being one prime example.
And the previous POTUS being another good example.
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