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Old 04-30-2018, 12:40 PM
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MSNBC host Joy Reid had guests on her Saturday show who reinforced her penitent perspective toward the gay community — and they aired their various points of view with gusto.

One of them — LGBT activist Brandon Wolf — told Reid that “homophobic psychopaths” are “running the United States government today,” and that if Vice President Mike Pence ever became president, he would put “gay people” in “concentration camps.”

“We have a secretary of state, as was mentioned, that believes that gay people are sinners based on who they are,” Wolf continued. “If Mike Pence, God bless him, ended up in the White House, sitting behind that desk in the Oval Office, he would have us all in concentration camps hoping to pray away the gay. That’s what we’re actually up against.”
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We have a secretary of state, as was mentioned, that believes that gay people are sinners based on who they are
It's not the SOS or anyone else in the government that defines homosexuality as sin; it is the Bible that says it.
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)
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“If Mike Pence, God bless him, ended up in the White House, sitting behind that desk in the Oval Office, he would have us all in concentration camps hoping to pray away the gay. That’s what we’re actually up against.”
I'm surprised he didn't follow that with, "Remember...It's the Republicans who try to scare you!!!!!!"...
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It's not the SOS or anyone else in the government that defines homosexuality as sin; it is the Bible that says it.
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)
Thank Goddess we don't live in a theocracy. Just because a religious work says that homosexuality is a sin doesn't make it so. God has made people the way they are and s/he wouldn't deliberately create "sinners."

With that said, my gay friends hate Trump because they think he's going to take away their rights. This is BS; he actually has appointed gays to important positions in his administration, but you wouldn't know it from the left wing fake news sites they all go by.

Pence, on the other hand, is a religious fundamentalist who IMO was a poor pick for VP. I guess Trump was trying to get the fundie votes by choosing him. I don't believe Pence would put gays in concentration camps, though; this is just more fearmongering to turn people against the Trump administration.
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Homosexuals are such an insignificant part of the population that anything regarding them is simply a red herring not worthy of discussion. They are just a vocal minority that has some success in publicizing their bogus issues because their issues are in step with the Alinskyite tenet of destroying the family unit.
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Thank Goddess we don't live in a theocracy. Just because a religious work says that homosexuality is a sin doesn't make it so. God has made people the way they are and s/he wouldn't deliberately create "sinners."

With that said, my gay friends hate Trump because they think he's going to take away their rights. This is BS; he actually has appointed gays to important positions in his administration, but you wouldn't know it from the left wing fake news sites they all go by.

Pence, on the other hand, is a religious fundamentalist who IMO was a poor pick for VP. I guess Trump was trying to get the fundie votes by choosing him. I don't believe Pence would put gays in concentration camps, though; this is just more fearmongering to turn people against the Trump administration.
Actually, God did create sinners. All of us are sinners at birth. Meaning therefore than none of have the right to cast stones at other sinners. Which is why the Christians, who organized our nation's fundamental laws. AKA the Constitution, did not create a Theocracy.

As For VP Pence as a pick, Trump already had the religious right. So I don't buy your logic that it helped Trump win.. Admittedly it didn't hurt. But I believe Trump chose Pence for the simple and logical reason that Trump might die. Pence is a dutiful soldier who would continue Trump's bold plans, at least as best he could.

As for creating the hellish anti gay environment envisioned by the OP Joy Reid, under what legal construct could any US President do such things?
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It might look like fear mongering B.S. that won't go anywhere. But remember the party of the KKK was successful into conning millions of black voters into thinking its the party of Lincoln that are the racist.
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Thank Goddess we don't live in a theocracy. Just because a religious work says that homosexuality is a sin doesn't make it so. God has made people the way they are and s/he wouldn't deliberately create "sinners."

With that said, my gay friends hate Trump because they think he's going to take away their rights. This is BS; he actually has appointed gays to important positions in his administration, but you wouldn't know it from the left wing fake news sites they all go by.

Pence, on the other hand, is a religious fundamentalist who IMO was a poor pick for VP. I guess Trump was trying to get the fundie votes by choosing him. I don't believe Pence would put gays in concentration camps, though; this is just more fearmongering to turn people against the Trump administration.
So the Bible is just some religious work? Sorry, Christians believe that it is the word of God handed down to men. And if God says it is a sin, who are we to question?

You may not believe the word of God and that is your right because as you said, we don't live in a theocracy. I for one and also happy about that. I don't know many Christians that would want that either. But there are some basic tenets of the Christian faith that sin is sin no matter how mainstream others try to make it. But the Bible also said that we should love one another regardless of their sin. My children sin, but that does not mean I don't love them. It also doesn't mean that they are free to get away with it just because I love them.

But it is not up to us to judge people for their sins. It is our duty to live as God would have us live our lives and to be an example of his love to others in this world and to spread his word. I also know a few people that are homosexuals. One of them is related. I don't hate them and I treat them just as I treat everyone else. However, they also know that I believe they are living a sinful lifestyle and hope they will give their lives to God. It is God that will ultimately judge them, not me or anyone else in this world.
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It doesn't matter with regards to how wrong both versions of his statement are, but ...
“I misspoke on Joy’s show,” Wolf said. “What I meant to say was that Vice President Pence would have us in conversion camps. Which, of course, is a reference to Pence’s tacit support of the abhorrent practice of conversion therapy on LGBTQ youth. The psychiatric community has overwhelmingly condemned this form of torture on children while Pence and the modern GOP stubbornly stick by their support of it.”

Wolf added Pence, who had a long anti-LGBT history as a U.S. House member and governor of Indiana, should speak out against conversion therapy.

“I stand by my view that Vice President Pence is wildly out of touch with the realities faced by LGBTQ youth today and should publicly denounce the dangerous practice of conversion therapy,” Wolf said.
Activist: I 'misspoke,' Pence wants gays in 'conversion camps'

Mike Pence's philosophies on gays do not include equality, but I don't agree with Wolf's statement either...
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