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Nothing to see here. Just moron kids spouting off bs claims and statistical lies to push a liberal agenda.

MSNBC viewers fo sho.

Seriously, these kids are impressionable fuq-tards to the 10th degree.

Parkland students claim they are the ‘mass shooting generation.’ But the facts tell different story.

Students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who are outspokenly in favor of increased gun control, appeared on CBS’ “60 Minutes” on Sunday and claimed their generation has become the “mass shooting generation.”

But according to a recent analysis studying school shootings, school shooting massacres are not a “growing epidemic,” as NPR phrased it.

What did the students claim?

During a comprehensive interview featuring the two most prominent high schoolers — Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg — the Parkland, Florida, students said they have been forced to deal with mass shootings their entire lives.

“The thing about it is we are the generation that’s had to be trapped in closets, waiting for police to come or waiting for a shooter to walk into our door. We are the people who know what it’s like first-hand,” student Alex Wind said.

“We’re the mass shooting generation,” Cameron Kasky added. “I was born months after Columbine. I’m 17 years old, and we’ve had 17 years of mass shootings.”

The students recited similar talking points in other interviews. They claimed gun violence is an epidemic gripping schools across the country, and one that has only become worse, often even claiming mass killings at school happen more often than they actually do.

The facts do not corroborate that narrative — they actually show the opposite.

What do the facts say?

“Schools are safer today than they had been in previous decades,” James Alan Fox, a professor of criminology at Northeastern University in Boston who has studied mass murder for three decades, told NPR.

Fox and doctoral student Emma Fridel recently ran the numbers and discovered there have been very few actual “mass shootings” — defined as a shooting with more than four deaths, excluding the killer — at schools since 1996. In fact, there have been just eight, while there have been just 16 multiple victim shootings.

Not only are school massacres not an “epidemic,” Fox said, but they are actually becoming less frequent than they were in the 1990s. “Four times the number of children were killed in schools in the early 1990s than today,” Fox told News@Northeastern.

Meanwhile, Fox noted more children die each year in bicycle accidents and pool drownings than in mass killings at school.

Do some increased gun control measures have merit?

Fox said they do, such as raising the purchase age limits for rifles and banning bump stocks. Still, he cautioned mass killers will always find a “workaround.”

“The thing to remember is that these are extremely rare events, and no matter what you can come up with to prevent it, the shooter will have a workaround,” he explained to News@Northeastern.

In addition, Fridel said measures to prepare students for a mass shooting aren’t helpful.

“These measures just serve to alarm students and make them think it’s something that’s common,” she explained.

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Nothing to see here. Just moron kids spouting off bs claims and statistical lies to push a liberal agenda.
MSNBC viewers fo sho.
Seriously, these kids are impressionable fuq-tards to the 10th degree.

Parkland students claim they are the ‘mass shooting generation.’ But the facts tell different story.
“The thing about it is we are the generation that’s had to be trapped in closets, waiting for police to come or waiting for a shooter to walk into our door. We are the people who know what it’s like first-hand,” student Alex Wind said.
“We’re the mass shooting generation,” Cameron Kasky added. “I was born months after Columbine. I’m 17 years old, and we’ve had 17 years of mass shootings.”

The facts do not corroborate that narrative — they actually show the opposite.

What do the facts say?

“Schools are safer today than they had been in previous decades,” James Alan Fox, a professor of criminology at Northeastern University in Boston who has studied mass murder for three decades, told NPR.
Fox and doctoral student Emma Fridel recently ran the numbers and discovered there have been very few actual “mass shootings” — defined as a shooting with more than four deaths, excluding the killer — at schools since 1996. In fact, there have been just eight, while there have been just 16 multiple victim shootings.
Not only are school massacres not an “epidemic,” Fox said, but they are actually becoming less frequent than they were in the 1990s. “Four times the number of children were killed in schools in the early 1990s than today,” Fox told News@Northeastern.
Meanwhile, Fox noted more children die each year in bicycle accidents and pool drownings than in mass killings at school.
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Same theme for Terrorism... and all violent Crime in general.
All are down sine the 90s... everywhere in the U.S..


All are hyped out of proportion by the media and politicians for various reasons.
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I also wonder about bullying.
We keep hearing about how bad bullying is these days. I remember bullies existing for as long as I've been alive. Elementary school, Jr High, and High School, I saw it and was part of it. At times I was bullied, at other times I was the bully.
We didn't have the "zero tolerance" BS when I was in school.
I learned that when a bully targeted me my best alternative was to fight back and the bully stopped. Bullies don't like people that fight back.
I learned that when I was being a bully I didn't like people that fought back so I stopped bullying them.
"Zero Tolerance" means that the kids that fight back against bullies get punished for protecting themselves just as much as the bully that started the problem.
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Funny (and sad) a high school kid has to educate Piers Morgan.

FACT CHECK: Parkland survivor Kyle Kashuv schools Piers Morgan on gun control

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At one point, Morgan said to Kashuv, “Here’s the reality — every year in Britain, 32 people die from gun-related deaths. Every day in America, that number is 85. America has more gun deaths per year. … America has more gun deaths than the next 22 richest countries in the world combined. And at some point, surely, there has to be some form of tighter regulation to just try and stop these incessant shootings.”

“Let me tell you something,” responded Kashuv, “Most of the deaths that you see are from suicides. The next majority, all right, is gang-related violence. And stripping away the rights of individuals who are law abiding citizens won’t solve the problem. And let’s say we look at assault rifles, 3 percent of all gun deaths are with assault rifles; 68 percent of those are suicides. So saying that we’re going to ban all semi-automatic rifles will not solve the problem. We have to look a gang-related violence [because] that’s where most of the numbers come from.”

According to statistics, Kashuv was correct. Government data from the UK’s Office of National Statistics, shows that homicides increased after the Firearms Act in 1997. FBI statistics from 2010 – 2014 show 63,061 gun homicides in the US. Of those, approximately 2.4 percent were committed using a rifle, compared to 47.7 percent with handguns. And “two-thirds of the more than 33,000 gun deaths that take place in the U.S. every year are suicides,”
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I also wonder about bullying.
We keep hearing about how bad bullying is these days. I remember bullies existing for as long as I've been alive. Elementary school, Jr High, and High School, I saw it and was part of it. At times I was bullied, at other times I was the bully.
We didn't have the "zero tolerance" BS when I was in school.
I learned that when a bully targeted me my best alternative was to fight back and the bully stopped. Bullies don't like people that fight back.
I learned that when I was being a bully I didn't like people that fought back so I stopped bullying them.
"Zero Tolerance" means that the kids that fight back against bullies get punished for protecting themselves just as much as the bully that started the problem.
I was little in school, started a 4, so I got bullied. Your right, ONLY fighting back stopped it. It probably didn't help that I was kind of a smart ass in school. I finally picked up weight lifting and never got in any fights again. Funny how that works.
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For more than a year Parkland authorities begged that Nicolas Cruz be forcibly removed if not incarcerated.

He wasn't. Students died.

Report: FL Officials Wanted Rampage Suspect ?Forcibly Committed? - Liberty Park Press

Oooooooooooookay! Then, when will we see "student" organized marches against that negligence? Government policy says we should manage & control mental illness better. Why have we not done so?

The NRA advocates for better background checks and Mental health management. So, why are they the "automatic" targets of such organized hatred?
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The "Exploit Me!" generation...
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I was gonna go with the Vagina Generation but yours works too.
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Too much poison in the atmosphere and soil? Makes people crazy
I don't know but lets not let them have dirty rounds of ammunition and an ar15 ok? That just makes us look tacky.

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