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I wish them the best of luck. Not all in California are liberal regressives and I feel sorry for them living in such an expensive state with economically-ignorant politicians in charge.

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The founders of New California took an early step toward statehood Monday with the reading of their own Declaration of Independence from California, a state they describe as "ungovernable."

Their solution: Take over most of current-day California ó including many rural counties ó and leave the coastal urban areas to themselves.

"The current state of California has become governed by a tyranny," the group, led in part by vice chairman Robert Paul Preston, declared in a document published online.

The split would look something like this, per the group:

"After years of over taxation, regulation, and mono-party politics the State of California and many of itís 58 Counties have become ungovernable," the group said in a statement, citing a "decline in essential basic services" including education, law enforcement, infrastructure and health care.

The group, organized with a council of county representatives and various committees, hopes to model their split after the state of West Virginia.

Claiming the authority of Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, the aspiring 51st state plans to convince California's Legislature to split the state before submitting the resolution to Congress.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...te/1036681001/
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I have a feeling the "coastal" regions will realize the bulk of those wanting to secede are the engine of the state's economy and will do everything they can to keep their hands in those pockets...
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I have a feeling the "coastal" regions will realize the bulk of those wanting to secede are the engine of the state's economy and will do everything they can to keep their hands in those pockets...
Of course they will. They cannot handle things on their own.
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I wish them the best of luck. Not all in California are liberal regressives and I feel sorry for them living in such an expensive state with economically-ignorant politicians in charge.
I would think that IF this should come to be, CA will continue to fracture itself when some of the northern areas realize how much they subsidize the southern areas.

Don't get me wrong, there are some very nice areas of CA. Unfortunately, they are in the minority IMO.
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US Constitution, article 4, section 3:

1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

2: The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
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Once again, this is just a Russian supported attempt to divide Americans even further.
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Do you have any links to legitimate sources to back up this allegation?
This isn't the first time this topic has come up here.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...fornia/517890/

A Russian Twitter bot promoted California secession, or Calexit - The San Diego Union-Tribune

They did the same thing in TExas too

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.08108da3b81c

https://mashable.com/2017/11/07/cale.../#C_aAVm4hTZqj
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