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100% down with this.

I'm sure our political friends who think a harsh look is excessive punishment will disagree but hey...life's probs can't be solved with a wrist-slap.

Trump administration studying policy on death penalty for drug dealers

The Trump administration is reportedly considering a new policy that would make drug dealers eligible for the death penalty.

The Justice Department and the Domestic Policy Council are looking into such a policy, and details could be announced within weeks, the Washington Post reported.

Why are they considering the death penalty?
It’s part of an effort to crackdown on opioid-related overdose deaths.

Last week, Trump announced his administration’s plans to roll out strong policies on opioids.

“Some countries have a very tough penalty, the ultimate penalty, and they have much less of a drug problem than we do,” Trump said during a White House summit on opioids.

One possibility is making high-volume trafficking of fentanyl a capital crime, while continuing to study harsher, noncapital punishments for major drug dealers, the Post reported.

Currently, the death penalty only applies to drug-related cases that involve the murder or death of a law enforcement officer, the report noted.

Trump has said privately that he is interested in looking at Singapore’s drug policies. Officials from that country have briefed senior White House staffers on their country’s drug policies, according to published reports.

Singapore’s approach includes treatment and education in addition to the death penalty for dealers, according to the report.

Trump has reportedly said he believes that leniency is not effective when dealing with drug-related crimes. He has also said he believes children should be taught that they can die from using drugs. Even a small amount of the synthetic drug can be fatal.

Trump’s consideration of the death penalty in relation to opioid drugs boosts his reputation as being tough on illegal drugs. Under the Trump administration, Attorney General Jeff Sessions last year directed federal prosecutors to seek the harshest penalties for drug-related crimes.

Public health officials and law enforcement leaders have stressed that the harshest penalties should be reserved for major drug crimes. Treatment is the most effective way to deal with low-level users and drug addicts, they said.

Peter H. Meyers, a professor at the George Washington University School of Law, told the Washington Post he doesn’t agree with adding more capital crimes for drug dealers, but it would most likely be legal.

“It very likely would be constitutional if they want to do it,” Meyers said.
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I don't like the Fed having more power...I'm more concerned with the excessive power they have NOW and how it should be restrained...
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I don't like the Fed having more power...I'm more concerned with the excessive power they have NOW and how it should be restrained...
So you're sayin' you don't think the death penalty should be on the table for cases like this?

Heroin, as well as other drugs, are highly dangerous to American citizens. I'm not talkin' 'bout some dude growin' a few pounds of weed in his backyard. We're talkin' 'bout 90,000 decks of heroin. Don't ya think peeps at the top of such operation should have the possibility of meetin' The Reaper?
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I oppose the death penalty for dealers since I oppose the War on Drugs. If someone wants to sell something and someone else wants to buy it, it shouldn't be anyone else's business, as long as it isn't bombs or anything that can cause harm to others not involved in the transaction. By harm I don't mean the stupidity of drug addiction, which is a lifestyle choice.
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I oppose the death penalty for dealers since I oppose the War on Drugs. If someone wants to sell something and someone else wants to buy it, it shouldn't be anyone else's business, as long as it isn't bombs or anything that can cause harm to others not involved in the transaction. By harm I don't mean the stupidity of drug addiction, which is a lifestyle choice.
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Questions.
How is it constitutional for the Pres, to change the laws on drug crimes?
Aren't laws made by congress?

How do they define "major" drug dealers?

When will they prosecute executives of major banks for money laundering literally BILLIONS in drug money, instead of just 'fining' the Banks. Will they be eligible for the Death penalty as well?

Will they start with corrupt cops that are caught facilitating or running "major" drug dealing op?

Will they target and prosecute big dealers on college campuses, and target college parties for raids? Go to Wall st, D.C. and Hollywood parties and Give some of those fat cat peoples dealers the death penalty. Before they go to poor areas busting down doors an such?


The CIA has been caught and is well known to be IN the drug biz. Any of them going to get the freakin deathh penalty?

We've got troops in Afghanistan TODAY, protection poppy fields for the cultivation and export of Opium to Russia the U.S. , the EU, and parts unknown. Are the generals in charge of those Poppy protection ops going to get the death penalty?

the War on drugs n the US has been BS game from the start. it doesn't take much to scratch beneath the surface and see the MAJOR players aren't really in any danger from Trump. Either he's not in the loop and naďve or he's just using this as something else to hype his ManlyMan image and meat for his political base.
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I oppose the death penalty for dealers since I oppose the War on Drugs. If someone wants to sell something and someone else wants to buy it, it shouldn't be anyone else's business, as long as it isn't bombs or anything that can cause harm to others not involved in the transaction. By harm I don't mean the stupidity of drug addiction, which is a lifestyle choice.
So it's okay that drug cartels can control entire cities and other regions with their death squads, eh? Just because drugs are made legal, it does not mean that competition among drug punks will fade away. Legal or not, dumbasses who need psychotropic drugs in their brains will grow in numbers, with dealers ready to accommodate their needs through coercion, extortion, and death.

Death to all drug punks.
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So it's okay that drug cartels can control entire cities and other regions with their death squads, eh?
That's a straw man.

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Just because drugs are made legal, it does not mean that competition among drug punks will fade away. Legal or not, dumbasses who need psychotropic drugs in their brains will grow in numbers, with dealers ready to accommodate their needs through coercion, extortion, and death.
The Drug War is responsible for the violence. Remember how violence increased so much during alcohol prohibition that the feds decided to overturn prohibition? The same thing is going on with the drug laws now - violence due to the black market which would not have the same level of power and violence if the drug laws are eliminated.

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Is a pot smoker who grows some and sells some a drug punk who should be murdered by government? That's just despicable to think that.
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That's a straw man.



The Drug War is responsible for the violence. Remember how violence increased so much during alcohol prohibition that the feds decided to overturn prohibition? The same thing is going on with the drug laws now - violence due to the black market which would not have the same level of power and violence if the drug laws are eliminated.



Is a pot smoker who grows some and sells some a drug punk who should be murdered by government? That's just despicable to think that.

By all means, go ahead and advocate for an end to the drug war. It only means the government punks will not be able to make themselves rich through the money spent by dumbasses on drugs.

Your last statement about pot smoker turned seller being murdered by government smells of melodrama. Let me catch that pot smoker trying to do business with one of my small charges, and he won't have the government to worry over.
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Questions.
How is it constitutional for the Pres, to change the laws on drug crimes?
Aren't laws made by congress?

How do they define "major" drug dealers?

When will they prosecute executives of major banks for money laundering literally BILLIONS in drug money, instead of just 'fining' the Banks. Will they be eligible for the Death penalty as well?

Will they start with corrupt cops that are caught facilitating or running "major" drug dealing op?

Will they target and prosecute big dealers on college campuses, and target college parties for raids? Go to Wall st, D.C. and Hollywood parties and Give some of those fat cat peoples dealers the death penalty. Before they go to poor areas busting down doors an such?


The CIA has been caught and is well known to be IN the drug biz. Any of them going to get the freakin deathh penalty?
Well said.....

How about doctors who prescribe endless opioids...?


A very slippery slope here fellas.....
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