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I'm putting $100 bucks down on they're here thanks to "chain migration".


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They could be here on an IR-5 visa, meaning they are legal permanent residents because they are the parents of a U.S. citizen. Kevin Johnson, dean of the UC Davis Law School, believes this is the most likely option, even though the administration’s immigration proposal would limit family visas to spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents, ending “extended-family chain migration.”

“That’s pretty common,” said Sarah Pierce, an immigration policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute. “It is way more feasible or likely that they would use tourism visas.” She noted that data from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services shows that the approval rate for the I-539 form (which extends status for all types of nonimmigrant visas, not just tourists) is 86 percent.

This would be a relatively simple explanation, which makes it curious why the White House would not confirm it if this is indeed the case.

However, another immigration attorney cast doubt on this theory. “Anyone here as a tourist cannot legally be helping to take care of grandchildren. Government considers that working in the U.S., and tourists are not authorized to work,” she said, asking not to be identified. “Many grandparents have been denied visitor visas because they innocently say they will be helping with the new baby—when they are really thinking about just visiting with their child and grandchild.”
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As we noted, we gave Grisham, the first lady’s spokeswoman, ample opportunity to explain the immigration status of the Knavses. It’s a mystery why the White House refuses to answer such a simple question, given the president’s high-profile demand to limit immigration.
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I'm putting $100 bucks down on they're here thanks to "chain migration".
I'd bet double that they are here legally and were here legally when President Trump began his run for President. Do you have a point? Or is this the new President Trump attack. Per your own post, 86% of these requests are are approved.

Not to be confused with other familial situations. Say, auntie "the welfare recipient", and "Uncle "the drunk", who were not legal when a family member obtained high office, but now are. Still drawing welfare. Still drinking. Still living here.

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It doesn't really matter if the use of "Chain Migration" was employed here any more than it matters if Trump, or Elizabeth Warren used old tax loopholes to save on taxes relates to the new tax codes.

If it was legal then, no arguments stand on more than hyperbole.

There was a time we had no limits on immigration but that changed. Now we do but apparently do not enforce it equally. That has to change.

I remember driving 55 MPH when it was the limit. I didn't like it but I did it. But they seldom enforced it either. I don't worry anymore because, the stupid law was changed.
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It doesn't really matter if the use of "Chain Migration" was employed here any more than it matters if Trump, or Elizabeth Warren used old tax loopholes to save on taxes relates to the new tax codes.

If it was legal then, no arguments stand on more than hyperbole.
That's where I'm at...

I'd like to know how many Democrats are throwing their extra tax money away because they were against the tax reform act signed a couple of months ago...

People who were in gangs when they were young now against gangs?...Sure

People who took drugs rally against drugs?...Why not?

People whose family may have used chain migration and are against it now?...

HOLOCAUST, HITLER, OUTRAGE, HATE, DIE HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!...

By the way - The term "HOLOCAUST, HITLER, OUTRAGE, HATE, DIE HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!" could be the title of about 87% of all news articles about Trump from the mainstream media....
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I'd bet double that they are here legally and were here legally when President Trump began his run for President. Do you have a point? Or is this the new President Trump attack. Per your own post, 86% of these requests are are approved.
According to various news reports, the Knavses have been living in the United States at least a year.

According to the article, there are only 4 options for why they could still be here. I left out the two most unlikely.

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Individuals who are outside the United States may be able to request parole into the United States based on humanitarian or significant public benefit reasons. There is no statutory or regulatory definition of significant public benefit. “Parole based on significant public benefit includes, but is not limited to, law enforcement and national security reasons or foreign or domestic policy considerations,” USCIS says. “We exercise our discretion on a case-by-case basis.”

Their parole may be extended at the discretion of the Homeland Security Department and would also permit them to adjust their status inside the country if Melania Trump intends to petition for them.
“I would guess that the first lady’s parents were paroled into the United States and did not have to apply for a visa,” Kolken said. “Parole can be extended by the [Homeland Security] Department, or the period of parole could be for a lengthy period of time. If my parents are looking to move to the U.S., and if I were president, I would have them paroled and then file an I-130/485 and get them green cards.”

Student (F-1) visa

This is the least likely possibility, but we thought we would mention it. An international student can remain in the country for as long as they go to school. In the case of the Knavses, for instance, they could attend a program to learn English as a second language. But they would be in violation of this visa if they provided childcare.
When we presented this list to Grisham, she responded: “None of those options apply.


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Two of these possibilities are politically troubling for the White House, while two are relatively benign. As we noted, we gave Grisham, the first lady’s spokeswoman, ample opportunity to explain the immigration status of the Knavses. It’s a mystery why the White House refuses to answer such a simple question, given the president’s high-profile demand to limit immigration.
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Not to be confused with other familial situations. Say, auntie "the welfare recipient", and "Uncle "the drunk", who were not legal when a family member obtained high office, but now are. Still drawing welfare. Still drinking. Still living here.

President Obama?s Uncle Arrested For Drunk Driving In Framingham CBS Boston
As usual, when the right can't defend tRUmp, they gotta try to false equivocate to Obama or Hillary. BTW, nothing in your article says anything about welfare, that wouldn't be just another one of those tired sterotypes about black people would it?
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According to various news reports, the Knavses have been living in the United States at least a year.

According to the article, there are only 4 options for why they could still be here. I left out the two most unlikely.



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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.425144e4339a



As usual, when the right can't defend tRUmp, they gotta try to false equivocate to Obama or Hillary. BTW, nothing in your article says anything about welfare, that wouldn't be just another one of those tired sterotypes about black people would it?
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According to various news reports, the Knavses have been living in the United States at least a year.
I'm not arguing whether or if the Trump in laws are living in the US. I'm betting that if they are, they are here legally. You're the one questioning their status, and you are making my point. If they've been here at least a year, whatever the status, it has nothing to do with President Trump.
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I'm not arguing whether or if the Trump in laws are living in the US. I'm betting that if they are, they are here legally. You're the one questioning their status, and you are making my point. If they've been here at least a year, whatever the status, it has nothing to do with President Trump.
I'm not questioning their status exactly, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of tRUmp. Chain Migration is fine for his family. But the end of America for anyone who isn't white and rich I guess.
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The farthest left site I can quickly find. No likey?, pick your own. There are dozens.

I'm all ears about the false equivalency. Enlighten me.
I think there was confusion about my intent. I couldn't care less if Melania or her family were here legally or illegally. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the tRUmps when it comes to their immigration status, while telling the rest of America to live by a different set of rules.
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I'm not questioning their status exactly, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of tRUmp. Chain Migration is fine for his family. But the end of America for anyone who isn't white and rich I guess.
You need a better walkback.

For starters, do you know where the in laws are living? I don't.

Do you know their status? I don't.

They may very well have come here under familial migration. Doesn't matter.

Again, I don't see the point.
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