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So your admitting that pissing off the Clinton's could put a persons life in danger?
Try Harder and stop listening to FOX news lies.

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I thought this was obvious, but I forget where I am. Clinton has nothing to do with this. here, I'll help you out. The news here is not the text. It is Waldman. By the looks of this, Waldman has flipped. And for those who don't know, Waldman WORKS FOR OLEG DERIPASKA.

And Oleg Deripaska besides being a Russian Oligarch, close to Putin. He's also deeply connected with tRUmp.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ipaska/541677/

Oh, and by the way, this just came out.

"Russian deputy prime minister secretly met with oligarch Oleg Deripaska to discuss US relations after Paul Manafort reportedly offered Mr Deripaska briefings on the Trump campaign, according to videos discovered by a Russian opposition activist. "

Keep a close eye on this in coming days because if Waldman decided to cooperate with US authorities, then this is done on purpose by assange and Fox news to out him, (Russians aren't exactly nice to those who talk and reveal their wrongdoing) and Mueller has stuff on tRUmp that you can't even dream of.
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Obama State Dept. official admits free-flowing exchange of reports with Trump dossier author

An Obama State Department official has acknowledged he had regular contact with the author of the controversial anti-Trump dossier – coming forward in an apparent bid to blunt expected criticism from the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

In a Washington Post column posted late Thursday, Jonathan Winer detailed an extensive exchange of documents with ex-British spy Christopher Steele, a friend of his since 2009.

He said he shared “more than 100 of Steele’s reports with the Russia experts at the State Department” over a period of two years. These weren’t related to American politics – but he would later share information about the Trump dossier with the top levels of the Obama-era State Department.

Further, Winer said he shared separate Trump-related material passed on by a Clinton contact with Steele – filling in the blanks regarding an exchange that was mentioned earlier this week in a Senate memo. And he acknowledged that material, originally from Clinton-tied activist/journalist Cody Shearer, made its way to the FBI.

“Given that I had not worked with Shearer and knew that he was not a professional intelligence officer, I did not mention or share his notes with anyone at the State Department. I did not expect them to be shared with anyone in the U.S. government,” wrote Winer, a former U.S. deputy assistant secretary of state and former Libya special envoy. “But I learned later that Steele did share them -- with the FBI, after the FBI asked him to provide everything he had on allegations relating to Trump, his campaign and Russian interference in U.S. elections.”

The details from Winer provide more insight into how well connected Steele was at one time with U.S. government figures --and how unverified information about then-candidate Donald Trump circulated at very high levels in 2016 with his involvement.

Steele’s dossier was at the heart of the controversial memo released last week by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., with White House approval. The memo alleged that the FBI sought a surveillance warrant for a Trump associate based in large part on that dossier, without fully revealing that the research had been funded by Democratic sources.

Democrats called the memo incomplete and misleading, and are pushing for the release of their own rebuttal memo. Nunes isn’t finished, either, and is pursuing a new “phase” in his investigation.

In publishing his Op-Ed late Thursday, Winer wrote that he suspects Nunes wants to know about his own relationship with Steele while at the Obama State Department.

This expectation seemingly prompted Winer to tell his story.

Amid the D.C. debate over the Nunes memo, meanwhile, a newly released version of a criminal referral for Steele appeared to back up some of the GOP chairman’s claims.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., sent that criminal referral in early January to FBI Director Christopher Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. They said the surveillance applications “relied heavily on Mr. Steele’s dossier claims” and “failed to disclose” that the Clinton campaign and DNC helped fund the research.

And the referral apparently referenced Winer – though his name was redacted. As Fox News previously reported, the referral said Steele got a report from someone at the State Department – with information that came from "a foreign sub-source who 'is in touch with (redacted), a contact of (redacted), a friend of the Clintons, who passed it to (redacted).”

It has since emerged – and the Winer Op-Ed confirmed – that the Clinton contact was longtime confidant Sidney Blumenthal. Winer was apparently involved from the State Department.

The information Blumenthal shared was separate from the Trump dossier Steele was already compiling. Winer said Blumenthal showed him notes gathered by Shearer that, similarly, alleged the Russians had compromising information on Trump “of a sexual and financial nature.” Winer shared a copy with Steele.

“I agreed to let him keep a copy of the Shearer notes,” Winer wrote.

Further, Winer said that Steele alerted him in the summer of 2016 about “disturbing information regarding possible ties between Donald Trump, his campaign and senior Russian officials.” The two met in Washington in September 2016 to discuss what is now known as the “dossier.”

He reviewed the material and prepared a two-page summary he shared with top diplomatic official Victoria Nuland, “who indicated that, like me, she felt that the secretary of state needed to be made aware of this material.”

Winer also detailed how, after he returned to the State Department in 2013 (following previous service in the 1990s), Steele asked him if the department would want information he had.

Winer, in turn, contacted Nuland and shared several of those reports.

“She told me they were useful and asked me to continue to send them. Over the next two years, I shared more than 100 of Steele's reports with the Russia experts at the State Department, who continued to find them useful. None of the reports related to U.S. politics or domestic U.S. matters, and the reports constituted a very small portion of the data set reviewed by State Department experts trying to make sense of events in Russia,” he wrote.

Even before Winer published his op-ed, his name had appeared in an Atlantic article earlier this week asserting he was Nunes’ “new target.”

As reflected in Winer’s column, The Atlantic reported that Winer got a memo from Shearer and passed it to Steele. The Washington Examiner’s Byron York also reported in January about Steele’s contacts within the Obama State Department, citing a Guardian journalist who said Nuland and then-Secretary of State John Kerry received some of his reports. The Guardian first reported on the Shearer memo.

Asked Friday by Fox News about Winer’s new claims, Nunes’ office had no comment.

Fox News' Catherine Herridge contributed to this report.

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We can only hope.

One thing for sure, it needs to happen. Comey should be behind bars avoiding gang-rapes in the shower.

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Right, because the leaders in the FBI have been super trustworthy to this point.
Yes. Much more so than partisan dens or repubs.

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NYT bombshell: CIA gave $100k to shady Russian operative offering stolen NSA tools, Trump sex tape

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The New York Times reported in a bombshell report on Friday the Central Intelligence Agency agreed to pay a shady Russian operative with ties to Russian intelligence agencies $1 million for promising to return stolen National Security Agency cyber-weapons and deliver dirt on President Donald Trump.

What are the details?

During a meeting with the Russian in a Berlin hotel room last September, American spies handed over $100,000 as the first installment of the $1 million payout after he agreed to return cyber-weapons the NSA had used to break into Russian and Chinese intelligence networks.

A few weeks later, the Russian began handing over data, the Times reported. However, instead of secret NSA tools, the Russian seemed only interested in delivering compromising information on Trump, his associates and supporters.

The Russian provided the CIA with multiple deliveries between October and December “almost all of what he delivered was related to the 2016 election and alleged ties between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia, not the NSA or CIA hacking tools,” according to the Times.
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Let's correct the most glaring factual errors in the comment.

There is no evidence supporting the dossier.

The FISA warrants applications based primarily on the dossier represent a huge abuse of authority and most probably a violation of law.
Roughly 1/3rd of the claims made in Steele's memos (dossier) have been independently confirmed (some before the FBI even received copies of Steele's memos), 1/3rd have been partially confirmed, and 1/3rd have no independent evidence to support the claim. Nothing in Steele's memos has been disproven.

Just because claims made in an intelligence report does not have independent verification does not imply that the claim is false.

No, the Steele dossier was not the primary reason for the application for FISA surveillance warrants. Carter Page's previous 2013 association with Russian spies that gave the FBI reason to suspect Page was an unregistered foreign agent (spy) for the Russian government, his pro-Russian public statements, and his trip to Russia in July 2016 where he had secret meetings with top Russian officials. Steele, through his sources, knew that Carter Page had had these secret meetings with top Russians in July 2016, that the CIA also knew about, and Steele's memo was used as collaborating evidence (i.e. the Steele memo information was confirmed by CIA sources).

All of the extensions to that initial surveillance warrant were dependent upon actual information/evidence gained from the surveillance that supported the suspicion that Carter Page was an unregistered agent for the Russians (i.e. a spy). The surveillance itself must be yielding creditable results for the extensions. While supplemental information can and generally is included the surveillance yielding results in a prerequisite to extending the surveillance.
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Yes. Much more so than partisan dens or repubs.

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That's like saying they are more trustworthy than a rabid pitbull. Not really setting the bar very high. Ranking of trustworthiness least to most:

1. Politician
2. FBI leadership (really just a different politician)
3. rattle snake
4. used car salesman
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I think this is important: CIA Director Pompeo told the Senate today that this NYT story -which is the basis for Trump’s tweet below-was false. Pompeo’s words: “Reporting on this matter has been atrocious. It’s been ridiculous, totally inaccurate.”

Someone should ask White House why Trump then used the NYT story like this after they knew it was false :

According to the @nytimes, a Russian sold phony secrets on “Trump” to the U.S. Asking price was $10 million, brought down to $1 million to be paid over time. I hope people are now seeing & understanding what is going on here. It is all now starting to come out - DRAIN THE SWAMP! -

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...45433170415616


Just more proof that Trump is knowingly telling lies to vindicate himself in the Mueller probe. And more evidence of obstruction.
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