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It's about time! Too many people receive various welfare programs because they simply don't want to work, and these programs make it possible for these people to mooch off the taxpayers. This proposal will exempt those who are pregnant, elderly or too ill to work, which makes it fair IMO.

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The Trump Administration moved Thursday to allow states to impose work requirements on their Medicaid programs for the first time, the latest alteration of the nation’s health-care system through administrative action after Republican efforts to repeal Obamacare failed last year.

The change will allow states to craft programs that would require Medicaid recipients to prove they are working, training for a job, or volunteering in their communities, according to guidance issued by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

Trump administration officials said states would only be allowed to impose the requirements on able-bodied and working-age Americans. Those deemed "medically frail" and pregnant women will be exempted, and states must prove they are not inappropriately denying coverage to those with disabilities. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...t-for-medicaid
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Those who see welfare as a necessary entitlement--who really want America to be a social-democratic state, as throughout Europe--are (rather understandably) up in arms about this...
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Lolz....Trump gives massive tax breaks for rich people with private jets and private schools and takes away healthcare from poor people and you dumbass cheer.

Bunch of ****ing lemmings.
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Lolz....Trump gives massive tax breaks for rich people with private jets and private schools and takes away healthcare from poor people and you dumbass cheer.

Bunch of ****ing lemmings.
Your missing the point.

The 'rich' (selected as anyone who makes more then the person complaining) are keeping more of the money they made.

No one has taken away health care from anybody. Health care is still available. Oh, you man health insurance, paid for by other people.

So you support generational welfare, and people who could be working, shouldn't have to work, and other people should continue supporting them.
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So you support generational welfare, and people who could be working, shouldn't have to work, and other people should continue supporting them.
You beat me to it.
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To rail against "massive tax breaks for rich people with private jets and private schools" is (1) to make an appeal to emotion--which is a logical fallacy; and (2) to confuse amount with percentage, thereby overlooking the fact--conveniently, it seems--that the person with the greater amount of money involved will, or course, receive a larger tax break, in terms of total dollars.

Oh, and it also treats all money as being, essentially, the government's property--which it just (graciously) puts on loan to its citizens--so that any reduction in the rate of taxation is merely a gift from the government.
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To rail against "massive tax breaks for rich people with private jets and private schools" is (1) to make an appeal to emotion--which is a logical fallacy; and (2) to confuse amount with percentage, thereby overlooking the fact--conveniently, it seems--that the person with the greater amount of money involved will, or course, receive a larger tax break, in terms of total dollars.

Oh, and it also treats all money as being, essentially, the government's property--which it just (graciously) puts on loan to its citizens--so that any reduction in the rate of taxation is merely a gift from the government.

Yet its a fact. Literally, the Republicans are allowing the country to go trillions in debt so they can give massive tax breaks for rich people, including tax breaks for billionaires with private jets and for their kids at private schools. And they take away things like CHIP and not allowing teachers to deduct the school supply's they buy for their students anymore. And now, Trump and the republicans want to pay for those massive tax cuts for billionaires by cutting Medicare and even more social programs that help poor people.

You may call it emotional, I call it evil. You may even agree with the tax cuts, and that is fine, but don't try and lie and act like that's not what is happening.
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Your missing the point.

The 'rich' (selected as anyone who makes more then the person complaining) are keeping more of the money they made.

No one has taken away health care from anybody. Health care is still available. Oh, you man health insurance, paid for by other people.

So you support generational welfare, and people who could be working, shouldn't have to work, and other people should continue supporting them.

I think that trickle down economics has been proven not to work, time and time again. I think that giving massive tax breaks to wealthy while taking away poor kids healthcare and cutting Medicare and adding Trillions to the debt isn't compassionate or conservative. I think the Republican party has sold its soul and will pay dearly in the coming years.
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I think that trickle down economics has been proven not to work, time and time again. I think that giving massive tax breaks to wealthy while taking away poor kids healthcare and cutting Medicare and adding Trillions to the debt isn't compassionate or conservative. I think the Republican party has sold its soul and will pay dearly in the coming years.
please define 'massive'.

Also, please clarify that you have not benefited at any point in time for increases in the stock market, stability of prices, or received any type of assistance or unemployment.

You also will, of course, refuse any 'tax break' or reduction in your personal taxes, and/or contribute it to a person in need if you are unable to refuse it.
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