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Great. So you are saying the climate is changing. I don't think many here are arguing with you on that point. The question is, is it due to natural forces just as have been occurring since the Earth had a climate, or is mankind all of the sudden causing this? To deny that the climate is in a constant state of change is to deny the science behind it. To all of a sudden believe that it is only changing due to mankind's influence, is to play into the political arguments.
Use your common sense. If more humans have asthma and tree frogs and bees are disappearing, we know human activity causes that. Whether through toxic fertilizer or car pollution. The earth is a big living organism. It's sick. Beaches get covered in tar, air is stanky and thick, you can't drink the water, chemicals poison our food, and the ocean has warmed and risen since the industrial revolutions; rainforests and forests in general are devastated; cars cars and more cars, and trucks; chemical plant by products fill the air, garbage and drugs are trying to fill the oceans, permafrost has receded and small island nations are under water. Even great Exxon is preparing for the rising tide.
Of course there have been natural causes of ice ages and dry periods. mostly mega volcanoes. seen any of those lately?
Of course when you constantly trash ANYTHING-the air the water the land, it is going to affect the planet sooner or later.
Instead of denying it's ever gonna be too much, we ought to be getting together to demand huge percentages of energy be produced by non fossil fuel. And we should be careful how we craft that.
Quit mining and burning our way out of land and water. And for God's sake quit the horrible Satanic fracking.
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Use your common sense. If more humans have asthma and tree frogs and bees are disappearing, we know human activity causes that. Whether through toxic fertilizer or car pollution. The earth is a big living organism. It's sick. Beaches get covered in tar, air is stanky and thick, you can't drink the water, chemicals poison our food, and the ocean has warmed and risen since the industrial revolutions; rainforests and forests in general are devastated; cars cars and more cars, and trucks; chemical plant by products fill the air, garbage and drugs are trying to fill the oceans, permafrost has receded and small island nations are under water. Even great Exxon is preparing for the rising tide.
Of course there have been natural causes of ice ages and dry periods. mostly mega volcanoes. seen any of those lately?
Of course when you constantly trash ANYTHING-the air the water the land, it is going to affect the planet sooner or later.
Instead of denying it's ever gonna be too much, we ought to be getting together to demand huge percentages of energy be produced by non fossil fuel. And we should be careful how we craft that.
Quit mining and burning our way out of land and water. And for God's sake quit the horrible Satanic fracking.
Once again, you are saying that the climate is changing, but you have not made a case for it being the result of man. I agree, we should clean up the environment and quit polluting it. There are other countries that are most guilty of this (China).

But you still have not addressed the point I made. Explain how the climate of the Earth has been in a constant state of change since the Earth had a climate, but now all of a sudden it is due to mankind?

And I'm sorry to tell you this, but fossil fuels will continue to be our primary source of power until the technologies can be developed to make renewable forms of energy efficient enough and practical to use. At this point in time, they are simply not there yet.
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Use your common sense. If more humans have asthma and tree frogs and bees are disappearing, we know human activity causes that. Whether through toxic fertilizer or car pollution. The earth is a big living organism. It's sick. Beaches get covered in tar, air is stanky and thick, you can't drink the water, chemicals poison our food, and the ocean has warmed and risen since the industrial revolutions; rainforests and forests in general are devastated; cars cars and more cars, and trucks; chemical plant by products fill the air, garbage and drugs are trying to fill the oceans, permafrost has receded and small island nations are under water. Even great Exxon is preparing for the rising tide.
Of course there have been natural causes of ice ages and dry periods. mostly mega volcanoes. seen any of those lately?
Of course when you constantly trash ANYTHING-the air the water the land, it is going to affect the planet sooner or later.
Instead of denying it's ever gonna be too much, we ought to be getting together to demand huge percentages of energy be produced by non fossil fuel. And we should be careful how we craft that.
Quit mining and burning our way out of land and water. And for God's sake quit the horrible Satanic fracking.
Dinosaurs disappeared; human activity cause that? Glaciers receded; human activity cause that?

The data set being used to generate these hyperventilating accusations and prognostications are insignificant by orders of magnitude.
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Use your common sense. If more humans have asthma and tree frogs and bees are disappearing, we know human activity causes that. Whether through toxic fertilizer or car pollution. The earth is a big living organism. It's sick. Beaches get covered in tar, air is stanky and thick, you can't drink the water, chemicals poison our food, and the ocean has warmed and risen since the industrial revolutions; rainforests and forests in general are devastated; cars cars and more cars, and trucks; chemical plant by products fill the air, garbage and drugs are trying to fill the oceans, permafrost has receded and small island nations are under water. Even great Exxon is preparing for the rising tide.
Of course there There have been natural causes of ice ages and dry periods. mostly mega volcanoes. seen any of those lately?
Of course when you constantly trash ANYTHING-the air the water the land, it is going to affect the planet sooner or later.
Instead of denying it's ever gonna be too much, we ought to be getting together to demand huge percentages of energy be produced by non fossil fuel. And we should be careful how we craft that.
Quit mining and burning our way out of land and water. And for God's sake quit the horrible Satanic fracking.
How do we know that?

What small islands are underwater due to human action?


Mega volcano's? Do a little research. Yellowstone may go boom any day. There are others. Some recent ones have blacked out the sun for years.
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How do we know that?

What small islands are underwater due to human action?


Mega volcano's? Do a little research. Yellowstone may go boom any day. There are others. Some recent ones have blacked out the sun for years.
Sandy islands come and go via erosion. Rock islands do not, and best show the rise and fall of mean sea levels.

I believe the Bishop rock lighthouse was built in 1818 on the smallest rock Island off the British Sicily Isles. It is still, today, above water.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...=15&ajaxhist=0

So, of what island is Salty talking?
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Sandy islands come and go via erosion. Rock islands do not, and best show the rise and fall of mean sea levels.

I believe the Bishop rock lighthouse was built in 1818 on the smallest rock Island off the British Sicily Isles. It is still, today, above water.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...=15&ajaxhist=0

So, of what island is Salty talkin Afewg?
The other one. The one TYT and CNN know about and you and I have never heard of.

But fear not. For every failed climate meme a new new one can be invented. Recently I've been hearing that all that new water weight is pushing the sea floor down so the islands are actually sinking. I guess that means that Virginia Beach will now be higher above water. A few billion bucks of research we'll know for sure.
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The other one. The one TYT and CNN know about and you and I have never heard of.

But fear not. For every failed climate meme a new new one can be invented. Recently I've been hearing that all that new water weight is pushing the sea floor down so the islands are actually sinking. I guess that means that Virginia Beach will now be higher above water. A few billion bucks of research we'll know for sure.
Of course we heard the new concept the other day that there is 5% more water in the atmosphere because of GW and respective ocean evaporation. Same poster BTW.
My immediate question is ,,,; Would not that cause the sea levels to go "DOWN?"

Can we not understand something as basic as gravity. Scientific "fact" cannot be determined by political consensus.
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When I was in school, humans were causing "Global Cooling" because all the pollutants in the air were blocking the suns rays causing things to cool down and if we didn't change our ways we were headed for another ice age.


Note: Please do not take this comment to mean I do not believe we should be good stewards by not polluting and trashing the only plant we have. I've personally seen some of the most rabid climate change activists I know toss garbage out their car window. Actions speak louder than words. If Al Gore wants people to change he should lead by example by lowering his OWN carbon footprint instead of trying to spend other peoples money on such measures. That goes for all of the other people out there screaming about climate change as well. When your carbon footprint is smaller than mine, we can have a discussion.
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When I was in school, humans were causing "Global Cooling" because all the pollutants in the air were blocking the suns rays causing things to cool down and if we didn't change our ways we were headed for another ice age.


Note: Please do not take this comment to mean I do not believe we should be good stewards by not polluting and trashing the only plant we have. I've personally seen some of the most rabid climate change activists I know toss garbage out their car window. Actions speak louder than words. If Al Gore wants people to change he should lead by example by lowering his OWN carbon footprint instead of trying to spend other peoples money on such measures. That goes for all of the other people out there screaming about climate change as well. When your carbon footprint is smaller than mine, we can have a discussion.


Thousands of years ago, people believe the earth to be flat because that is what the learned elite told them to believe. Now, anyone who demands factual proof is called a "Flat Earther."

Seriously?

Can you say IRONY?
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[QUOTE=GetAClue;924326]Great. So you are saying the climate is changing. I don't think many here are arguing with you on that point. The question is, is it due to natural forces just as have been occurring since the Earth had a climate, or is mankind all of the sudden causing this? To deny that the climate is in a constant state of change is to deny the science behind it. To all of a sudden believe that it is only changing due to mankind's influence, is to play into the political arguments.[/QUOTE]

And besides, what more do they want? People all over the world are working on renewable energy. Electric Semi's who woulda thought?

What more does the left want done?

I heard they are firing up coal plants back east because the renewable energy is not able to keep people warm.
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