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It took 70 years, but the European Union finally signed a pact today (Nov. 13) agreeing to integrate military funding, weapons development, and deployment of European defenses. In a way, creating a unified mega army.
US president’s Donald Trump’s frequent accusations that EU countries do not pay enough into NATO has been one catalyst for them move forward with a unified plan for military cooperation. The other is that it could legitimately diminish the bloc’s dependence on US military support.
EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini, called the pact “historic” as “the real problem is not how much we spend, it is the fact we spend in a fragmented manner.” She also said it would strengthen the work of the US-led NATO.
The UK had always resisted the idea of joint EU defense, fearing some kind of big “European army,” but the country’s planned exit from the bloc has removed that hurdle, allowing 23 other EU countries to move forward. Once Brexit happens, the UK could still possibly be involved, but for a price.
The group will have a €5 billion ($5.8 billion) European Defense Fund to buy weapons, a different fund for operations, and also get money from the EU budget for research. In the end, it means that the EU would have stronger, better synchronized national military forces to respond to crises together. German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel called it a “milestone in European development.”
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“This could develop new products and help increase efficiency in Europe.”
The next step will be for EU leaders to sign the legally binding agreement in December.
https://qz.com/1127984/eu-army-bloc-...us-dependence/

I am amused at this turn of events.
I have long thought that if the U.S. is to act like the world's police force, then we should get paid for it.
Looks like some people are seeking alternatives...
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I am amused at this turn of events.
I have long thought that if the U.S. is to act like the world's police force, then we should get paid for it.
Looks like some people are seeking alternatives...
I bet Putin is amused to.

Like the EU could even think they could play on the same field.

Putin would mop them up in a week.

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Looks like Trump's plan is working.
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I hope this means we can pull our troops out of Europe.We can use them to defend our borders.
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No, we can't.
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No, we can't.
We can wish can't we?
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I bet Putin is amused to.

Like the EU could even think they could play on the same field.

Putin would mop them up in a week.

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Are you a communist sympathiser?
who in their right mind would praise Poo-ton over our allies?
Says a member who approved of Iranian negotiations of a nuclear disaster of a treaty over the disapproval of Israel...

...But, you know...That's "different"...
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No, we can't.
There is a work around.
Eminent domain a 100' strip of land along the border and make it a military base. While I am not generally a fan of eminent domain, this is a national security issue.
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Are you a communist sympathiser?
who in their right mind would praise Poo-ton over our allies?
How does stating the truth make him a communist sympathizer or a praiser of Putin? The truth is, without our help Europe would get steamrolled by Russia should they decide to invade.
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