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You did not address what I posted. Do you see what this thread is about? The medias hate for Trump according to you.
Did you read what you posted?

"There was “sufficient capacity” of U.S.-flagged vessels to serve Puerto Rico, Gregory Moore, a spokesman for Customs and Border Protection, said in a statement.

The Defense Department said in a statement Wednesday that the sea-based response to the disaster will shift to a land-based approach for a longer-term recovery, led by the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the local government.

“Fuel distribution remains the top FEMA priority,” the statement said. “Multiple DOD elements delivered fuel and continue route-clearance operations.”

Elaine Duke, the acting secretary of Homeland Security, told a Senate panel Wednesday that when she spoke with Puerto Rico's governor at 1 p.m. Tuesday he had no unmet emergency needs. The problem is getting supplies across the island cluttered with debris and landslides, she said.

"First of all, we don't know of fuel shortages on the island of Puerto Rico," Duke told the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. "The challenge for us today is getting it distributed."
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Everything should be fine now . . .

Trump authorized the Jones Act waiver Thursday morning in response to Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló formally asking the White House to loosen the regulation Wednesday night.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politi...ver/index.html
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Trump authorized the Jones Act waiver Thursday morning in response to Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló formally asking the White House to loosen the regulation Wednesday night.

Trump authorizes waiver to loosen shipping regulations for Puerto Rico - CNNPolitics
Good job, Donny. The island is probably all better now.
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A rule was suspended for fla and tex aid as far as shipping goes
why not puerto rico?
Because Fla and Texas are not Puerto Rico and the needs are not the same. Cluttering up the shipping lanes with foreign vessels looking for a piece of the action will accomplish nothing.
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Another fake news phony scandal brought to us by the Trump hating media in service to their Democrat political masters. Trump didn't block more aid from being sent to Puerto Rico, the aftermath of the hurricane did.

If evil old Trump hadn't blocked it, tons of additional aid could have been delivered by flying carpet bypassing wrecked ports and roads. Let's all join the King of the Ignore List , what do we want foreign flying carpets for Puerto Rico. When do we want It? Now.

In contrast to unrealistic demands for aid delivered by flying carpet requests to the Obama administration for Jones Act waivers to assist with oil spill cleanup went unanswered.

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Crucial offers to help clean up BP’s oil spill “have come from Belgian, Dutch, and Norwegian firms that . . . possess some of the world’s most advanced oil skimming ships.” But the Obama administration wouldn’t accept the help, because doing so would require it to do something past presidents have routinely done: waive rules imposed by the Jones Act, a law backed by unions.

“The BP clean-up effort in the Gulf of Mexico is hampered by the Jones Act. This is a piece of 1920s protectionist legislation, that requires all vessels working in U.S. waters to be American-built, and American-crewed. So . . . the U.S. Coast Guard . . . can’t accept, and therefore don’t ask for, the assistance of high-tech European vessels
Obama Blocked Clean Up of BP Oil Spill by Friendly Countries; International Assistance Blocked by Regulations Obama Had The Authority To Waive

Obama rejects real help cleaning up the oil spill allowing it to spread, doing more damage to the Gulf ecosystem and economy to pander to his union cronies but that's ok. Trump allows the Jones Act waiver to lapse for a week creating an imaginary delay in aid delivery, Trump bad. Another example of the double standard brought to us by biased partisan hacks.
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Another fake news phony scandal brought to us by the Trump hating media in service to their Democrat political masters. Trump didn't block more aid from being sent to Puerto Rico, the aftermath of the hurricane did.

If evil old Trump hadn't blocked it, tons of additional aid could have been delivered by flying carpet bypassing wrecked ports and roads. Let's all join the King of the Ignore List , what do we want foreign flying carpets for Puerto Rico. When do we want It? Now.

In contrast to unrealistic demands for aid delivered by flying carpet requests to the Obama administration for Jones Act waivers to assist with oil spill cleanup went unanswered.



Obama Blocked Clean Up of BP Oil Spill by Friendly Countries; International Assistance Blocked by Regulations Obama Had The Authority To Waive

Obama rejects real help cleaning up the oil spill allowing it to spread, doing more damage to the Gulf ecosystem and economy to pander to his union cronies but that's ok. Trump allows the Jones Act waiver to lapse for a week creating an imaginary delay in aid delivery, Trump bad. Another example of the double standard brought to us by biased partisan hacks.
I am of the belief that Obama's reasoning for why he did not waiver the Jones act had little to do with the unions and much to do will allowing as much environmental damage as possible in order to enable more aggressive environmental legislations.

After all, if you mission is "more government, more control," why let a catastrophe go to waste by reducing it's magnitude?
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You did not address what I posted. Do you see what this thread is about? The medias hate for Trump according to you.
I heard on the radio this morning that Trump was redirecting all aid for PR to his private island. They think he is stocking up for the inevitable nuclear war that he is going to start.

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So Fuq your PJ bullshlt and lets discuss what we actually know instead of your unsourced opinion crap. Thanks
Lol, sweetie you are confusing the right with what the Fake News Media does to Trump every day with their baloney anonymous sources. Ahhh, the hypocrisy, it reigns supreme with you.
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Everything has a consequence to someone.

On the island many of the people are mariners. There livelihood comes from the shipping industry. On an individual basis their homes and everything they own has been devastated. But because of the disaster they have the opportunity to reap profits. By allowing others to reap those profits you potentially hinder their ability to recover.

That's not to say that the Jones act shouldn't be loosened to alleviate the immediate need. But everything has a consequence to someone. You help one person you are potentially harming someone else.

I'm no fan of Trump, he does many stupid and idiotic things and he says even more. But you can't really fault him for his handling of things in Puerto Rico. As soon as the Governor of Puerto Rico asked for the Jones act to be loosened he did so. He responded to the people THERE who were best in the position to know what needs to be done. The left and the media's rabid hatred of him and their willingness to cry bloody murder over everything causes the really idiotic things he does to become lost.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up tomorrow and find them screaming that he isn't tying his shoes right.

Edit: Full disclosure - I spent 2 years serving a mission for the LDS Church in Puerto Rico. While their I gained a love for the island and it's people. I pray for them every day, have personally donated to causes I think will best utilize the funds toward their recovery and wish there was more I could do. My thoughts are with them constantly in this crisis.

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Also the title of this thread is absolutely RIDICULOUS. The Jones act has nothing to do with the aid the United States is sending to Puerto Rico.
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