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Puerto Rico's Governor Dismantles Media Attacks on Trump's Response to Hurricanes Irma and Maria

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It was clear this weekend that the talking points had gone out to the media: President Trump's response to both Hurricane Irma earlier this month and Hurricane Maria last week was as disastrous as Bush's response to Hurricane Katrina.

But is it true?

The pushback against the media narrative has come from a surprising source: Puerto Rica Governor Ricardo Rosselló, who served as a Hillary Clinton delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention and as an Obama delegate in 2012.


In an interview with PBS Newshour this evening, Rosselló thanked the Trump administration for their prompt response:

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JOHN YANG: Governor, are you getting all the aid you need or getting it fast enough from the states?

GOV. RICARDO ROSSELLO: First of all, we are very grateful for the administration. They have responded quickly.

The president has been very attentive to the situation, personally calling me several times. FEMA and the FEMA director have been here in Puerto Rico twice. As a matter of fact, they were here with us today, making sure that all the resources in FEMA were working in conjunction with the central government.

We have been working together. We have been getting results
. The magnitude of this catastrophe is enormous. This is going to take a lot of help, a lot of collaboration. So, my call is to congressmen and congresswomen to take action quickly and conclusively with an aid package for Puerto Rico.

We are in the midst of potentially having a humanitarian crisis here in Puerto Rico which would translate to a humanitarian crisis in the United States. So, I call upon Congress to take action immediately. You know, Puerto Ricans are proud U.S. citizens.
This is a message that Gov. Rosselló and other Puerto Rican officials had been putting out all weekend.

On Saturday, the Associated Press reported:

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Rossello and other officials praised the federal government for planning its response in detail before the storm hit, a contrast with what Puerto Rico has long seen as the neglect of 3.4 million Americans living in a territory without a vote in Congress or the electoral college.

"This is the first time we get this type of federal coordination," said Resident Commission Jenniffer Gonzalez, Puerto Rico's non-voting representative in Washington
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On Monday, FEMA tweeted out about some of the help that had already arrived.
  • Six commercial barges transported and delivered meals, water, generators, cots, and other commodities to Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
  • An air bridge is established, flying three flights per day to St. Croix, each carrying approximately 33,000 meals.
  • The logistics support ship SS Wright arrived carrying more than 1.1 million meals, and nearly one million liters of freshwater.
  • Two shipping barges with 1.2 million liters of water, 31 generators, and more than 6,000 cots arrived in St. Thomas.
  • Two additional shipping barges loaded with food, water, and emergency relief supplies are en route to the Caribbean Sea from Florida.
  • Millions of additional meals are being flown to Puerto Rico from staging areas in Kentucky and Florida.
  • The Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) is transporting a shipment of 124,000 gallons of diesel fuel to Puerto Rico, with arrival in the coming days.
  • It may not be obvious to the media, but one of the difficulties in getting supplies to Puerto Rico is that it's an island 1200+ nautical miles from Miami, the closest major U.S. port.

Clearing the ports takes time, and getting supplies for 3.4 million people by plane into devastated airports isn't a real option.

Stars and Stripes reports that the Defense Department has already sent 2,600 personnel to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands to assist in recovery.
When the Left isn't getting on their knees to disrespect the flag, they're on their knees begging a God they don't dare say exists, publicly, for disasters to be the worse possible to win political points against their enemy...NOT political opponent...ENEMY...

And, of course, if it doesn't happen, they'll just make it up...
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PJ media? What a bullshlt source. It starts out by saying The talking points had gone out to the media. Their source for this BS? It doesn't matter because people like cnredd believe it. And who sent these talking points? It doesn't matter because people like cnredd want to believe it. I don't remember hearing these talking points about Irma. But according to cnredd and his bullshlt sources "The Media" just fell into line and attacked Trump. There must be a thread here about it somewhere on this site.

I think your love for Trump is so complete and deep you see attacks from the mass media that didn't happen. Guess they all didn't get the talking points. Now this IS a story

Why Puerto Rico is being denied shipping deliveries of fuel


Some members of Congress want the Trump administration to suspend shipping restrictions that would allow more fuel and emergency supplies to reach Puerto Rico.

The Jones Act prohibits foreign-flagged vessels from picking up and delivering fuel between U.S. ports. That act was suspended from Sept. 8 through Sept. 22 to allow shipments to Texas and Florida after Hurricanes Harvey and Irma. Puerto Rico was included under that waiver for petroleum products.

Since that suspension needed Sept. 22, the Trump administration hasn't issued a new one for Puerto Rico since Hurricane Maria struck. That hurricane wiped out the power supply, destroyed cell towers and led to massive fuel shortages on the island that relies on diesel for much of its power.

President Trump, who plans to visit Puerto Rico on Tuesday, said the administration is studying the waiver request, but that shipping interests are opposed.

"Well, we're thinking about that, but we have a lot of shippers and a lot of people that work in the shipping industry that don't want the Jones Act lifted, and we have a lot of ships out there right now," Trump said. "And I will tell you the governor was very generous yesterday with some statements and so was the mayor of San Juan; very, very generous with their statements."

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., wrote to the Department of Homeland Security urging a waiver and ultimately "a full repeal of this archaic and burdensome act."

“These emergency waivers have been valuable to speed up recovery efforts in the impacted regions," McCain said. "However, I am very concerned by the department’s decision not to waive the Jones Act for current relief efforts in Puerto Rico, which is facing a worsening humanitarian crisis following Hurricane Maria."

Any request formally goes to Customs and Border Protection and the secretary of Homeland Security.

There was “sufficient capacity” of U.S.-flagged vessels to serve Puerto Rico, Gregory Moore, a spokesman for Customs and Border Protection, said in a statement.

Waiver requests must be in the interest of national defense. The Defense Department, which made a request for Hurricane Harvey, hasn't made a new request for Puerto Rico yet. If another agency or shipping company makes the request, it must also be reviewed by the U.S. Maritime Administration.

The Defense Department said in a statement Wednesday that the sea-based response to the disaster will shift to a land-based approach for a longer-term recovery, led by the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the local government.

“Fuel distribution remains the top FEMA priority,” the statement said. “Multiple DOD elements delivered fuel and continue route-clearance operations.”

Elaine Duke, the acting secretary of Homeland Security, told a Senate panel Wednesday that when she spoke with Puerto Rico's governor at 1 p.m. Tuesday he had no unmet emergency needs. The problem is getting supplies across the island cluttered with debris and landslides, she said.

"First of all, we don't know of fuel shortages on the island of Puerto Rico," Duke told the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. "The challenge for us today is getting it distributed."

Charlie Papavizas, a Washington-based maritime lawyer and partner at Winston and Strawn LLP, said Jones Act waivers before 2005 were typically granted for specific vessels, not for general purposes such as a fuel shortage. But more general waivers have been granted since then for hurricanes Katrina, Rita, Sandy and Irma, he said.

“I do not believe there is any precedent at all for waiving the Jones Act for general purposes,” Papavizas said. “There has to be a national defense justification by law for a waiver, and the only economic related national defense justification acceptable to date — since at least 1950 — has been related to regional fuel shortages.”

The U.S. Virgin Islands, which were hit by multiple hurricanes, have a permanent waiver to the Jones Act under the law, but Puerto Rico wasn't included in that provision.

For House members to seek a waiver is unusual, but the department is considering it. A decision was not expected Wednesday, according to a senior administration official, who spoke on background in a conference call with reporters.


So Fuq your PJ bullshlt and lets discuss what we actually know instead of your unsourced opinion crap. Thanks
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When the Left isn't getting on their knees to disrespect the flag, they're on their knees begging a God they don't dare say exists, publicly, for disasters to be the worse possible to win political points against their enemy...NOT political opponent...ENEMY...

And, of course, if it doesn't happen, they'll just make it up...
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Puerto Rico's Governor Dismantles Media Attacks on Trump's Response to Hurricanes Irma and Maria

When the Left isn't getting on their knees to disrespect the flag, they're on their knees begging a God they don't dare say exists, publicly, for disasters to be the worse possible to win political points against their enemy...NOT political opponent...ENEMY...

And, of course, if it doesn't happen, they'll just make it up...
news people have been interviewing the people and their story is different.
Also the gov is not stupid. he knows he needs to stroke don for anything they can squeeze out of him. I don't blame him
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PJ media? What a bullshlt source.
From the article...which you didn't read and why I rarely go more than 1 or 2 posts with you understanding the moot point...

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In an interview with PBS Newshour this evening, Rosselló thanked the Trump administration for their prompt response:
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On Monday, FEMA tweeted out about some of the help that had already arrived.
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Gov. Ricardo Rossello of Puerto Rico joins Morning Joe to discuss the devastation caused by recent hurricanes, why Puerto Rico is on the verge of a humanitarian crisis and Trump's response.

Puerto Rico Governor: We need more help | MSNBC
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This story is a couple days old, but as I understand it, the problem is logistics, not availability of cargo space. PR's ports are mostly without power and with severely damaged facilities and are operating at far less than capacity with American ships towing barges more than ample to handle the shipping. Airfields are having a similar problem.

PR power may not be back anytime in the near future. Which creates he catch 22. Can't get supplies in to rebuild the ports and airfields so that supplies can flow. Allowing foreign vessels will not solve any problem.

The Trump administration has denied a request to grant a waiver of the Jones Act for Puerto Rico to ease the shipping of food, fuel and other hurricane relief supplies despite previous waivers earlier this year, citing a government assessment that determined the island’s ports are too damaged to handle an increased import capacity.

One extract. Don't remember where I found it but several sites report the same.

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Puerto Rico governor: We need more help
Gov. Ricardo Rossello of Puerto Rico joins Morning Joe to discuss the devastation caused by recent hurricanes, why Puerto Rico is on the verge of a humanitarian crisis and Trump's response.

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Read Rosello's comments in Redd's post above.
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From the article...which you didn't read and why I rarely go more than 1 or 2 posts with you understanding the moot point...
You did not address what I posted. Do you see what this thread is about? The medias hate for Trump according to you.
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This story is a couple days old, but as I understand it, the problem is logistics, not availability of cargo space. PR's ports are mostly without power and are operating at far less than capacity with American ships towing barges more than ample to handle the shipping. Airfields are having a similar problem.

PR power may not be back anytime in the near future. Which creates he catch 22. Can't get supplies in to rebuild the ports and airfields so that supplies can flow. Allowing foreign vessels will solve any problem.

The Trump administration has denied a request to grant a waiver of the Jones Act for Puerto Rico to ease the shipping of food, fuel and other hurricane relief supplies despite previous waivers earlier this year, citing a government assessment that determined the island’s ports are too damaged to handle an increased import capacity.

One exract. Don't remember where I found it but several sites report the same.
A rule was suspended for fla and tex aid as far as shipping goes
why not puerto rico?
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Read Rosello's comments in Redd's post above.
read my response to it.
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