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Old 09-24-2017, 02:03 PM
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I support full repeal, not the Obamacare Lite plans that keep being presented. Government has no business dictating medical insurance or care. Government intervention is a major factor that drives up costs.
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I support full repeal, not the Obamacare Lite plans that keep being presented. Government has no business dictating medical insurance or care. Government intervention is a major factor that drives up costs.
insurance companies have no business dictating health care. they are what drives up cost
government absolutely has the right to insure we are equally treated regarding health needs.
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insurance companies have no business dictating health care. they are what drives up cost
government absolutely has the right to insure we are equally treated regarding health needs.
Insurance companies Don't dictate healthcare. They only determine what they will pay for.
Government has no right or business deciding what healthcare should be available. This is what happens in all countries that have UHC.
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I support full repeal, not the Obamacare Lite plans that keep being presented. Government has no business dictating medical insurance or care. Government intervention is a major factor that drives up costs.
Wrong. Supporting an entire industry between us and our health care is what drives up costs.
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Wrong. Supporting an entire industry between us and our health care is what drives up costs.
Partially correct. Both an entire industry between us and our healthcare and government intervention in that industry is what drives up costs.
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Only thing I find infuriating about this is he is still toting the line of "Democrats shoved through Obamacare", which is utter bullsh-t. They bent over backwards for almost a year to try to placate the Republicans and conservative Democrats with months of hearings and roundtables from public and private entities,multiple rounds of debates and votes, and dozens of amendments and revisions from both parties.

Nothing the GOP has put forth comes anywhere close to the meat grinder the ACA went through, and they had seven years to work on it.
Now here is the biggest load of bullsh1t so far this year.

No one reached out. Hell Republicans had to vote on it to read the damn thing.

Your a liar once again Wally, an out right fuqing left wing liar.

No a single republican voted for the ;ice of sh1t ACA act, not a single fuqing one.. Your an idiot.

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Partially correct. Both an entire industry between us and our healthcare and government intervention in that industry is what drives up costs.
Government makes rules for companies who do business. It always has. Requiring insurers to cover preexisting conditions is one of them.
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If the Republicans had the intestinal fortitude to completely repeal the entire ACA I might become a Republican.
Until then, they can keep pissing in their hands and call it "washing".

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no it isn't; it's the truth

see some of us didnt watch the reports of what happened
we watched what happened

which you could have done but you were having too much fun watching game shows -also known as foxmsnbc-and reading viral emails
I note the absence of any attempt to address the facts presented just speculation about TV watching.

Is that the best you can manage?
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Wrong. Supporting an entire industry between us and our health care is what drives up costs.
Isn't that exactly what the ACA does?
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