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News & Current Events Discuss What White Supremacists and Racists Get Wrong About the Confederacy at the General Forum; [quote=jimbo;904938] Originally Posted by Mikeyy Nobody said that, Mikeyy. Nobody even implied that. I get that you think you got ...

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Nobody said that, Mikeyy. Nobody even implied that. I get that you think you got a gotcha, but you only have another nothing.

Japan for one thing, wasn't ever part of the US, so they couldn't be part of a US civil war.
Which actually makes fhem NOT traitors.
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[quote=Mikeyy;904930][quote=So you support us building monuments to the attack on Pearl Harbor to celebrate those who attacked us?

I said it was about secession and about slavery. Where are you from?[/quote]

We have monuments for Pearl Harbor, for those who died there. The Japanese were not American citizens.

Confederate soldiers, sailors, and Marines that fought in the Civil war were made U.S. Veterans by an act of Congress in in 1957, U.S. Public Law 85-425, Sec 410, Approved 23 May, 1958. This made all Confederate Army/ Navy/ Marine Veterans equal to U.S. Veterans. Additionally, under U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by the 17th Congress on 26 Feb 1929 the War Department was directed to erect headstones and recognize Confederate grave sites as U.S. War dead grave sites.
18 U.S. Code § 1369 - Destruction of veterans’ memorials (a) Whoever, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy, any structure, plaque, statue, or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. (b) A circumstance described in this subsection is that— (1) in committing the offense described in subsection (a), the defendant travels or causes another to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or uses the mail or an instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce; or (2) the structure, plaque, statue, or other monument described in subsection (a) is located on property owned by, or under the jurisdiction of, the Federal Government.


I think that kind of ends the discussion.....
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Which actually makes fhem NOT traitors.
Who are not traitors? The Japanese? Of course they aren't.

Just another Mikeyy point he doesn't have.

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[quote=Mikeyy;904930][quote=So you support us building monuments to the attack on Pearl Harbor to celebrate those who attacked us?

I said it was about secession and about slavery. Where are you from?[/quote]

The Japanese have numerous statues and memorials honoring their countrymen's sacrifice in WWII. Losing the war does not diminish the valor of those who fought for their country.

Are you suggesting it should? Always?

With regard to the OP,,,; Perhaps there are some who believe it would be easier for us to surrender our Constitution once those who fought for it are eliminated from history.
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The Japanese have numerous statues and memorials honoring their countrymen's sacrifice in WWII. Losing the war does not diminish the valor of those who fought for their country.
How does that answer my question? Do we have statues of Japanese soldiers? No. Know why? They were the enemy of the United States. So was the confederacy.
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Are you suggesting it should? Always?
They can celebrate their soldiers as does the US. The confederacy were not US soldiers. Are you dense?
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Who are not traitors? The Japanese? Of course they aren't.

Just another Mikeyy point he doesn't have.
The rebels,on the other hand, were. The more you guys argue this point the more sure I am the racist claims are right. And the more you guys try to convience me the enemies of my nation really aren't., the more sure I am you know too.
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We do not celebrate the confederacy. Savvy? [quote=GottaGo;904940]
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We have monuments for Pearl Harbor, for those who died there. The Japanese were not American citizens.

Confederate soldiers, sailors, and Marines that fought in the Civil war were made U.S. Veterans by an act of Congress in in 1957, U.S. Public Law 85-425, Sec 410, Approved 23 May, 1958. This made all Confederate Army/ Navy/ Marine Veterans equal to U.S. Veterans. Additionally, under U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by the 17th Congress on 26 Feb 1929 the War Department was directed to erect headstones and recognize Confederate grave sites as U.S. War dead grave sites.
18 U.S. Code § 1369 - Destruction of veterans’ memorials (a) Whoever, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy, any structure, plaque, statue, or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. (b) A circumstance described in this subsection is that— (1) in committing the offense described in subsection (a), the defendant travels or causes another to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or uses the mail or an instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce; or (2) the structure, plaque, statue, or other monument described in subsection (a) is located on property owned by, or under the jurisdiction of, the Federal Government.


I think that kind of ends the discussion.....
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How does that answer my question? Do we have statues of Japanese soldiers? No. Know why? They were the enemy of the United States. So was the confederacy.
They can celebrate their soldiers as does the US. The confederacy were not US soldiers. Are you dense?
Apparently, you chose not to read what I posted. They ARE US Soldiers.

Again proving, you don't care what is truth, if it doesn't fit your narrow perspective.
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We do not celebrate the confederacy. Savvy?
Yes, this country acknowledges them, and thanks them for their contribution to this country by honoring them.

Capisce?
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[quote=GottaGo;904967][quote=Mikeyy;904961][quote=

Apparently, you chose not to read what I posted. They ARE US Soldiers.

Again proving, you don't care what is truth, if it doesn't fit your narrow perspective.[/quote]

No. They are not. Read the law. They are to be treated as a US veteran. Not declared a US veteran. My wice treats me like a king, but that doesn't make me one.
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