Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > General Forum > News & Current Events
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

News & Current Events Discuss European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed at the General Forum; Originally Posted by winston53660 Why would you want anybody to suffer like that like that baby has to? I, for ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 06-30-2017, 11:57 AM
GetAClue's Avatar
Scholar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Northern Ohio
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,887
Thanks: 3,534
Thanked 2,505 Times in 1,473 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

Quote:
Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
Why would you want anybody to suffer like that like that baby has to?
I, for one would not want ANYONE to suffer like that. However, it is not mine, nor your, decision. It SHOULD be the decision of the child's parents whom I would imagine, have the best interest of their own child on their mind.

But by stating what you posted, you are really dodging the obvious question that comes to mind while addressing this issue in a political forum; do you feel that this is the correct decision by the court? Do you feel that the court should even be in a position to make these kinds of life and death decisions?

As others have stated here, I believe this comes down to an issue of fairness in the minds of the courts in that if they allow this specific instance to proceed without gov't dollars, others that believe that everyone should have equal access to financial resources for such a procedure, would demand that the gov't pony up if circumstances arose that affected them. This then puts places the gov't in the role of god and master of all. Not exactly a society that I would want to exist in.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to GetAClue For This Useful Post:
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 06-30-2017, 11:58 AM
Dog Man's Avatar
Down Boy!
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Southern Nevada
Gender: Male
Posts: 10,236
Thanks: 3,545
Thanked 4,436 Times in 3,118 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

I know how to save the baby.

Convict it of a brutal murder and give it the chair. Liberals will come out of the wood work to save the baby.

Or.....say the baby is gay or transgender.

Or at the very least, say the baby will vote for democrats when it grows up.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Dog Man For This Useful Post:
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 06-30-2017, 11:59 AM
Dog Man's Avatar
Down Boy!
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Southern Nevada
Gender: Male
Posts: 10,236
Thanks: 3,545
Thanked 4,436 Times in 3,118 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

Quote:
Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
Why would you want anybody to suffer like that like that baby has to?
So are you OK with death panels?
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 06-30-2017, 02:17 PM
CindyB's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,207
Thanks: 8,071
Thanked 4,896 Times in 3,007 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

How do you know that baby is physically suffering winston? You don't, you are going by what the Doctor's that WANT the baby to die said.
__________________
If I was a man, you couldn’t pay me to hire a female employee right now.

Simply not worth running the risk of an entire business and livelihood.

Social radicalism, if not defeated, will have long term implications for women.

The left is sanctioning insanity.
Candace Owens
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to CindyB For This Useful Post:
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 06-30-2017, 04:20 PM
FrancSevin's Avatar
Runs with scissors
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: St Louis MO
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,562
Thanks: 7,667
Thanked 10,606 Times in 5,987 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

Actually, the child is struggling. Having it's condition since birth, it does not know it is suffering.

Long ago in Junior High school, my biology teacher performed an experiment for the class. She took a spider and put her in a terrarium where the creature spun a web and began to make a life. Every two days or so, she removed one of it's legs.

The spider "suffered" a diminished ability but continued to set webs and catch it's dinner. It did so until it was down to three legs.

And despite the shortfall of resources and ability it continued to attempt life with what it had. It seemed to accept it's condition because it knew no different and it wanted desperately to live.

Life will do that.

I lived for some time expiring months later having lived most of it's life diminished because,,,; It wanted to. It needed to. And yet no one exercised the authority and power we all had to extinguish it.

And "reduce" it's suffering.

It most certainly is painful to what a child in this situation. Your heart goes out because we know what we would feel were it our own body and mind. But we should never presume to understand it's perspective.
__________________
I am going to hang a Batman Costume in my closet. .......... Just to screw with myself when I get alzheimer's.
sola gratia, sola fide, sola scriptura.

I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN, I AM A FREEMAN, THE DEMOCRATS WORST NIGHTMARE

Last edited by FrancSevin; 06-30-2017 at 04:39 PM..
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to FrancSevin For This Useful Post:
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2017, 09:28 AM
Surly's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Midwest
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,253
Thanks: 2,797
Thanked 3,060 Times in 2,393 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

Just for the record, if this patient's family did not have fund to fly back from Europe on a vent, (rough guess about $30k) and did not have the funds for Pediatric ICU (thousands more per day) not to mention multiple procedures and medications, would Trump care cover this?
__________________
Grab her by the *****, Vote Roy Moore.

-Donald
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2017, 11:54 AM
Manitou's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Gender: Male
Posts: 18,854
Thanks: 253
Thanked 5,681 Times in 4,123 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surly View Post
Just for the record, if this patient's family did not have fund to fly back from Europe on a vent, (rough guess about $30k) and did not have the funds for Pediatric ICU (thousands more per day) not to mention multiple procedures and medications, would Trump care cover this?
Just for the record, what does that have to do with the European court playing God?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Manitou For This Useful Post:
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2017, 02:09 PM
CindyB's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,207
Thanks: 8,071
Thanked 4,896 Times in 3,007 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

The Left just wants to deflect
__________________
If I was a man, you couldn’t pay me to hire a female employee right now.

Simply not worth running the risk of an entire business and livelihood.

Social radicalism, if not defeated, will have long term implications for women.

The left is sanctioning insanity.
Candace Owens
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to CindyB For This Useful Post:
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2017, 02:53 PM
FrancSevin's Avatar
Runs with scissors
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: St Louis MO
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,562
Thanks: 7,667
Thanked 10,606 Times in 5,987 Posts
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surly View Post
Just for the record, if this patient's family did not have fund to fly back from Europe on a vent, (rough guess about $30k) and did not have the funds for Pediatric ICU (thousands more per day) not to mention multiple procedures and medications, would Trump care cover this?
Proving again there are stupid questions.

First, Since the couple would be coming here legally they would not qualify illegal immigrant status. So even Obamacare wouldn't cover it.
Second, We don't yet know what TRUMP care is because it hasn't passed. So there is no answer,,,;
However,,,

Since the couple has the funds to travel, stay and pay the medical bills...; yu question is mute.

Instead of snarky suppositions, why not try proposing a scenario that matters, or at least indicates you actually care. It might be considered, in your case, a record achievement.
__________________
I am going to hang a Batman Costume in my closet. .......... Just to screw with myself when I get alzheimer's.
sola gratia, sola fide, sola scriptura.

I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN, I AM A FREEMAN, THE DEMOCRATS WORST NIGHTMARE
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 07-01-2017, 03:47 PM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Esto perpetua
Posts: 77,249
Thanks: 54,326
Thanked 25,806 Times in 18,387 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Re: European Court of Human Rights rules baby must be killed

Quote:
Originally Posted by CindyB View Post
Since when is a freaking Court God?
The parents raised the money to bring the baby here for treatment, who the heck is this Court to say they can't?

So, you really believe this is right Salty? Wow
living will make him suffer more. there is no cure, no treatment that will make his days easier. He needs to be unhooked imho if he was my family member. Usually I am in favor of leave it alone; there may be a glimmer of hope. But in this case he is artificially being kept alive in terrible pain.
Yes these decisions unfortunately come to legal fights all the time. Cause family fights w each other about gramma and that is why we need a document expressing our wishes. In this case someone not selfish has to look out for his best interest which imho is not to interfere with God's plan.
__________________
Do not mind anything that anyone tells you about anyone else. Judge everyone and everything for yourself.
Henry James
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
baby, court, european, human, killed, must, rights, rules

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0