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Old 06-30-2017, 12:57 PM
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Why would you want anybody to suffer like that like that baby has to?
I, for one would not want ANYONE to suffer like that. However, it is not mine, nor your, decision. It SHOULD be the decision of the child's parents whom I would imagine, have the best interest of their own child on their mind.

But by stating what you posted, you are really dodging the obvious question that comes to mind while addressing this issue in a political forum; do you feel that this is the correct decision by the court? Do you feel that the court should even be in a position to make these kinds of life and death decisions?

As others have stated here, I believe this comes down to an issue of fairness in the minds of the courts in that if they allow this specific instance to proceed without gov't dollars, others that believe that everyone should have equal access to financial resources for such a procedure, would demand that the gov't pony up if circumstances arose that affected them. This then puts places the gov't in the role of god and master of all. Not exactly a society that I would want to exist in.
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I know how to save the baby.

Convict it of a brutal murder and give it the chair. Liberals will come out of the wood work to save the baby.

Or.....say the baby is gay or transgender.

Or at the very least, say the baby will vote for democrats when it grows up.
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Why would you want anybody to suffer like that like that baby has to?
So are you OK with death panels?
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How do you know that baby is physically suffering winston? You don't, you are going by what the Doctor's that WANT the baby to die said.
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Actually, the child is struggling. Having it's condition since birth, it does not know it is suffering.

Long ago in Junior High school, my biology teacher performed an experiment for the class. She took a spider and put her in a terrarium where the creature spun a web and began to make a life. Every two days or so, she removed one of it's legs.

The spider "suffered" a diminished ability but continued to set webs and catch it's dinner. It did so until it was down to three legs.

And despite the shortfall of resources and ability it continued to attempt life with what it had. It seemed to accept it's condition because it knew no different and it wanted desperately to live.

Life will do that.

I lived for some time expiring months later having lived most of it's life diminished because,,,; It wanted to. It needed to. And yet no one exercised the authority and power we all had to extinguish it.

And "reduce" it's suffering.

It most certainly is painful to what a child in this situation. Your heart goes out because we know what we would feel were it our own body and mind. But we should never presume to understand it's perspective.
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Just for the record, if this patient's family did not have fund to fly back from Europe on a vent, (rough guess about $30k) and did not have the funds for Pediatric ICU (thousands more per day) not to mention multiple procedures and medications, would Trump care cover this?
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Just for the record, if this patient's family did not have fund to fly back from Europe on a vent, (rough guess about $30k) and did not have the funds for Pediatric ICU (thousands more per day) not to mention multiple procedures and medications, would Trump care cover this?
Just for the record, what does that have to do with the European court playing God?
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The Left just wants to deflect
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Just for the record, if this patient's family did not have fund to fly back from Europe on a vent, (rough guess about $30k) and did not have the funds for Pediatric ICU (thousands more per day) not to mention multiple procedures and medications, would Trump care cover this?
Proving again there are stupid questions.

First, Since the couple would be coming here legally they would not qualify illegal immigrant status. So even Obamacare wouldn't cover it.
Second, We don't yet know what TRUMP care is because it hasn't passed. So there is no answer,,,;
However,,,

Since the couple has the funds to travel, stay and pay the medical bills...; yu question is mute.

Instead of snarky suppositions, why not try proposing a scenario that matters, or at least indicates you actually care. It might be considered, in your case, a record achievement.
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Since when is a freaking Court God?
The parents raised the money to bring the baby here for treatment, who the heck is this Court to say they can't?

So, you really believe this is right Salty? Wow
living will make him suffer more. there is no cure, no treatment that will make his days easier. He needs to be unhooked imho if he was my family member. Usually I am in favor of leave it alone; there may be a glimmer of hope. But in this case he is artificially being kept alive in terrible pain.
Yes these decisions unfortunately come to legal fights all the time. Cause family fights w each other about gramma and that is why we need a document expressing our wishes. In this case someone not selfish has to look out for his best interest which imho is not to interfere with God's plan.
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