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The problem is that the Republican party is never united. That is most likely due to the fact that it is partially filled with Progressives that run as Conservatives. The party leadership is progressive and opposed to any proposals by the Conservatives in the party. Conversely, conservatives in the party know that they are holding the line the best they can by obstructing the progressives in the party from taking us over the cliff by acting as Democrats.

I believe your over thinking it a bit.. As the GOP demands that each members be for the party line first.. Sure a few don't follow this line of thinking

And from what I can see the leadership are far from being Progressive in any way.. So you must mean they are trying to become Progressive.

If it weren't for the growing moderates coming into the GOP base, as Trump presented himself to be, they might have lost the last election. The two thing's in the GOP favor was the last eight years and H. Clinton..

And by now the word Conservative is becoming like a curse word to many Americans, as is Progressive.



The funny part is that the Democrats are either so blinded by partisan hate or are just too stupid to realize that Republican leadership is pushing conservatives aside in favor of progressive policies. The so called "repeal and replace" bill proposed in both houses by Republican leadership, does NOT repeal O'care, it just goes about trying to prop it up. If the Dems were smart, they would jump on that bandwagon with the progressive republicans and help to save O'care for the time being.

But I feel the real plan is to let O'Care fail and hasten the demand to move to UHC. McConnell and Ryan seem to be on board with that.

And this partisan hate isn't just in the DNC side of the aisles or you haven't been reading what some here are posting. And it is on many other forums as well as in both Houses on the Hill.

If one is to present the Truth they need to do so with both sides of this political coin.
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And this partisan hate isn't just in the DNC side of the aisles or you haven't been reading what some here are posting. And it is on many other forums as well as in both Houses on the Hill.

If one is to present the Truth they need to do so with both sides of this political coin.
By partisan hate, I was specifically referring to the DNC members of Congress. That is the only explanation that I can conclude as the GOP leadership is doing everything in their power to maintain and prop up O'Care. You would think that the DNC would be happy with the direction the GOP leadership is going.

So if it isn't hate, what is it? Blind stupidity?
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Before the leftists go into a full-blown victory dance, they should probably know the following:

(1) Mitch McConnell is very good at counting votes. And he apparently knew that he just did not have quite enough this time.

(2) It would have been a terrible idea to put this up for a vote without being sure that the votes were there--and not just because a defeat would have been embarrassing, either. The fact is that the GOP has opted to do this under "reconciliation," which requires only 50 votes (plus the vote of the vice president), rather than the usual 60--the Democrats are united in their blind rage for all things attached to Trump--and this can be used only once per year.

(3) After the July 4th recess--which lasts only a week--the Republicans will be back; presumably, with another plan.

Even Chuck Schumer (the Minority Leader)--who is about as partisan as one can get--recently acknowledged that this fight is not now over.
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By partisan hate, I was specifically referring to the DNC members of Congress. That is the only explanation that I can conclude as the GOP leadership is doing everything in their power to maintain and prop up O'Care. You would think that the DNC would be happy with the direction the GOP leadership is going.

So if it isn't hate, what is it? Blind stupidity?
Gee you were suppose to be quoting this, right?

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And this partisan hate isn't just in the DNC side of the aisles or you haven't been reading what some here are posting. And it is on many other forums as well as in both Houses on the Hill.

If one is to present the Truth they need to do so with both sides of this political coin.


All I read is what your thinking nothing more but a repeat from above.. I am not going to accept it is all one side and only the Dems are at fault. It does take two to tango doesn't it..

And I never said it wasn't partisan hate as you imply.. So can we back it up to where I started to question your post.

Now re-read what I typed GetAClue and if you like re-post to my statement.

As I thought you did very well up to your post to my statements....
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Gee you were suppose to be quoting this, right?



All I read is what your thinking nothing more but a repeat from above.. I am not going to accept it is all one side and only the Dems are at fault. It does take two to tango doesn't it..

And I never said it wasn't partisan hate as you imply.. So can we back it up to where I started to question your post.

Now re-read what I typed GetAClue and if you like re-post to my statement.

As I thought you did very well up to your post to my statements....
I'm sorry if I mis-understood what you were saying as I was referring to this line from your previous post:

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And this partisan hate isn't just in the DNC side of the aisles or you haven't been reading what some here are posting.
And, no I don't believe that the partisan hate comes from only one side. I was referring to the fact that the hate from the DNC is blinding them to the fact that the Republican leadership is not really repealing O'Care. They are simply doing what the Dems have been proposing and making changes that will keep it going until they can get to UHC.
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Aww makes sense now.. Yes the GOP is doing all it has to do to try to make this Health Care Bill work. Even keeping some of Obama Health care Rules in place for now...

At least they admit it is a very mess to deal with. And this is where for 7 years they did fail to realize it was. And they needed to start back then not last month..
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