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Quite a few people have been suggesting that we may be headed for a second civil war in this country.

Personally, I would prefer to avoid such talk, as any such development would be utterly devastating--to put it mildly.

But I do have to wonder if these were just the opening shots fired in such a war.

(Obviously, the shooter was unhinged; nonetheless, it is an open question, I think, as to whether others may follow his lead--and justify it with the platitude, "The end justifies the means.")
there won't be if we strive against it. tone down the talk.
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I am shocked you don't know rush spews racism. I used to listen to him in the early days and every time jessie jackson's name was mentioned he played the boll weevil song for god sakes
havent watched a lot of fox lately-just clips- but they always used to present an obscure crime by a black person or muslim as a call to arm up the militia.
yes there is every comparison of these two individuals.
I hope you will see that after your head clears.
OMG He is an entertainer, are you saying that people on the right cannot make fun of people if they have a darker skin? Why? He doesn't make fun of JJ because he is black, he makes fun of him because of what he says and does. He just happens to BE black. Rush is NOT racist, and does NOT spread racism. I know the left likes to read between the lines and conjure up racism in people they don't like, but that doesn't make it true.
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To suggest that one is automatically a racist for opposing any crime committed by a black person is roughly tantamount to declaring that one is automatically a sexist if one did not support Hillary Clinton in the latest presidential election...
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A liberal acting violently isn't a shocker. We've seen this sort of thing from the left since Trump was elected POTUS. Assaults, riots, and vandalism at rallies, not to mention the rhetoric that's included threatening to burn down the WH, having the military overthrow Trump, holding up a bloodied Trump-like head, acting out a mock assassination, etc.

This James Hodgkinson twat was a liberal extremist. He had a hatred for Trump and conservatives and asked if the Congressman on the baseball field were Republicans or Democrats. Upon hearing they were Republicans he opened fire.

This incident should wake up libs and convince 'em to stop this hateful and violent rhetoric; but it prolly won't. Violence is in their nature.

Scalise shooter: Dead gunman ID'd as Trump-hating building inspector from Illinois | Fox News

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The man who opened fire on a Congressional baseball practice Wednesday, seriously wounding a top Republican lawmaker and four others was an avowed Bernie Sanders supporter who despised President Trump, according to what appears to have been his Facebook page.

James T. Hodgkinson, 66, of Belleville, Ill., who was gunned down by police to end the shooting at Simpson Field in Alexandria, Va., appears to have maintained two Facebook pages, each replete with profane anti-Trump posts and glowing praise for Sanders.
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A number of anti-Trump Facebook posts, taken down Wednesday by the social media giant, were published to the page that appears to be Hodgkinson's just two days before the shooting. One said, “Trump is Guilty & Should Go to Prison for Treason.” Another said, “Make America Great Again, Resign!”

Hodgkinson appears to have posted an editorial cartoon on the page that depicted Scalise behind a podium, addressing a group of hooded Ku Klux Klansmen. Hodgkinson wrote in the post: "Here's a Republic that should lose his job, but they gave him a raise."

Fox News can confirm that Hodgkinson apparently sent politically-charged letters to the editor of the Belleville News-Democrat, which published a few of them. One letter that Hodgkinson wrote in 2011 stated: "It's time for the Republican congressmen to grow up. Maybe if they weren't so full of hate, they could see what they are doing to this country - selling it to the Chinese just so they can keep more of the millions."











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Not only is the Bernster a Socialist but a hypocrite too.

What Bernie Sanders did after Giffords 2011 shooting is coming back to haunt him – TheBlaze

Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is unequivocally condemning the vicious shooting committed by one of his campaign volunteers today, but he struck a different tone when Gabby Giffords was attacked in 2011.

Giffords, a former Democratic U.S. House Representative for Arizona, was the victim of a horrendous shooting that left her permanently injured, and took the lives of 6 people including some of her staffers. While the murderer, Jared Loughner, seemed to be animated by severe mental illness, Democrats used the opportunity to smear conservatives and blame unrelated right-wing rhetoric for the heinous act.

Among those on the left who shamelessly politicized the attack was one Senator Bernie Sanders.

He was so eager to cash in on the tragedy that he sent out a fundraising letter blaming threats from “right-wing reactionaries” for the attack.

“This horrendous act of violence is not some kind of strange aberration for this area where, it appears, threats and acts of violence are part of the political climate,” Sanders wrote. “Nobody can honestly express surprise that such a tragedy finally occurred.”

“In light of all of this violence – both actual and threatened – is Arizona a state in which people who are not Republicans are able to participate freely and fully in the democratic process?” he continued. “Have right-wing reactionaries, through threats and acts of violence, intimidated people with different points of view from expressing their political positions?”

Bernie was not as willing to pin Wednesday’s attack on members of Congress on political rhetoric, since it’s been discovered that the alleged shooter, James Hodgkinson, was a volunteer on his presidential campaign.

“I have just been informed that the alleged shooter at the Republican baseball practice this morning is someone who apparently volunteered on my presidential campaign,” Sanders said on the Senate floor. “I am sickened by this despicable act, and let me be as clear as I can be: Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms.”

Many people noted the discrepancy in his responses on social media.
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I am shocked you don't know rush spews racism. I used to listen to him in the early days and every time jessie jackson's name was mentioned he played the boll weevil song for god sakes
havent watched a lot of fox lately-just clips- but they always used to present an obscure crime by a black person or muslim as a call to arm up the militia.
yes there is every comparison of these two individuals.
I hope you will see that after your head clears.
Shooter followed Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, Lawrence O'Donell, Josh Harkinson, to name a few. Did he trust them? Did he believe in the Trump/Russia traitorous collusion hypothesis? Did he consider himself part of the resistance? Was he angry about Bernie's fate? Did he go into a tailspin just like the MSM when DJT won? The Federal Bureau of Matters is looking into it.
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Congresswoman received threatening email after shooting: ‘Your lives are forfeit’ – TheBlaze

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Congressperson Claudia Tenney (R-NY) received an email titled “One down, 216 to go…” after the shooting of House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La). The email went on to say “Did you NOT expect this?”

Tenney called into “Pure Opelka” today and told Mike Opelka that this sort of communication to her office is now typical. Emails, phone messages, and social media responses are increasingly “borderline violent.”
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A liberal acting violently isn't a shocker. We've seen this sort of thing from the left since Trump was elected POTUS. Assaults, riots, and vandalism at rallies, not to mention the rhetoric that's included threatening to burn down the WH, having the military overthrow Trump, holding up a bloodied Trump-like head, acting out a mock assassination, etc.

This James Hodgkinson twat was a liberal extremist. He had a hatred for Trump and conservatives and asked if the Congressman on the baseball field were Republicans or Democrats. Upon hearing they were Republicans he opened fire.

This incident should wake up libs and convince 'em to stop this hateful and violent rhetoric; but it prolly won't. Violence is in their nature.

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I think we can all be grateful for one thing today, the shooter was a democrat and clearly had no clue how to shoot. Multiple rounds and nobody but the gunman died. More Democratic violence not a surprise. Ban Democrats with guns, please, before they shoot their eye's out.
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Now the Virginia Governor is pushing for gun control. How about a little hate control?
The Virginia governor has been pushing for gun control for 20 years. McCauliffe is a very good friend of the Clinton's and at one time a campaign manager.

McCauliffe a couple years ago rescinded all but one of our reciprocal carry agreements. Fortunately the representatives overruled him.

Fortunately our primaries were yesterday and TMac is term limited, so he is on his way out.

And good riddance.
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I think we can all be grateful for one thing today, the shooter was a democrat and clearly had no clue how to shoot.
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