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Deckard 06-04-2017 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Manitou (Post 891616)
Funny I don't remember any intelligent posts here from any liberal.;)

That's because you are always so preoccupied azz references.

Surly 06-04-2017 05:51 PM

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Sorry about the insult, but you do just spew the party line, all the time. I have yet to hear anyone defend her. But I don't think it is illegal.
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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 891614)
Although I am not given to expressing it with such crude, juvenile terms, I concur with the idea Griffin ought to be considered of little worth.

The issue is what ought to be the reaction to someone posing for a photo of a mock beheading of our President. I note the irrelevant insult. Just saying. ..


AZRWinger 06-04-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 891615)
What was crime? Conservative drama queen butthurt?

Really? You have to.ask what is criminal about a public person staging a photograph depicting the bloody beheading of our POTUS with the intent of publishing it widely.:rolls

So severed heads are now part of legitimate political discourse. Beheading is now part of the resistance to the duly elected President. ;)

Manitou 06-04-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 891619)
That's because you are always so preoccupied azz references.

That is all I see from liberals, so you can't blame me for debating ass reference posts.;)

Manitou 06-04-2017 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 891656)
Really? You have to.ask what is criminal about a public person staging a photograph depicting the bloody beheading of our POTUS with the intent of publishing it widely.:rolls

So severed heads are now part of legitimate political discourse. Beheading is now part of the resistance to the duly elected President. ;)

That means if a liberal were depicted being beheaded politically, his ass would undergo a hemorroidectomy as well.

Deckard 06-04-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 891656)
Really? You have to.ask what is criminal about a public person staging a photograph depicting the bloody beheading of our POTUS with the intent of publishing it widely.:rolls

So severed heads are now part of legitimate political discourse. Beheading is now part of the resistance to the duly elected President. ;)

What crime will she be charged with? She's a comedienne protected by the 1st amendment do I really have to tell you there is a an amendment before the 2nd. Now you are just being silly.

GetAClue 06-05-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 891660)
What crime will she be charged with? She's a comedienne protected by the 1st amendment do I really have to tell you there is a an amendment before the 2nd. Now you are just being silly.

While for the most party, things comedians say ARE protected by the 1st Amendment, this could be seen as an indirect threat to the POTUS. In that case, it can be considered a crime in that it is illegal to make threats against the POTUS.

Mikeyy 06-05-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 891777)
While for the most party, things comedians say ARE protected by the 1st Amendment, this could be seen as an indirect threat to the POTUS. In that case, it can be considered a crime in that it is illegal to make threats against the POTUS.

You mean Nugent?

GetAClue 06-05-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy (Post 891781)
You mean Nugent?

You will need to enlighten me as to what you are talking about. But if he made a direct or an indirect threat to the POTUS, then yes, he could also be investigated as to having broken a law.

Mikeyy 06-05-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 891783)
You will need to enlighten me as to what you are talking about. But if he made a direct or an indirect threat to the POTUS, then yes, he could also be investigated as to having broken a law.

But the right defended the pediphile and in fact he is the rights hero. You even see huckabee jamming with him

GetAClue 06-05-2017 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy (Post 891785)
But the right defended the pediphile and in fact he is the rights hero. You even see huckabee jamming with him

I'm sorry, but I still have no idea what Nugent said so I cannot either defend or chastise him for it. You may be right, but at this point, I have no idea what he said.

Mikeyy 06-05-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 891795)
I'm sorry, but I still have no idea what Nugent said so I cannot either defend or chastise him for it. You may be right, but at this point, I have no idea what he said.

A republican who only knows the news from their perspective. Shocked I tells ya.

GetAClue 06-05-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy (Post 891798)
A republican who only knows the news from their perspective. Shocked I tells ya.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I am NOT a Republican. I tend to vote for more Republicans that Democrats due mainly to the fact that they generally align with my positions more so than Democrats do, but I am NOT a Republican.


If you could point me to that Nugent said or even summarize what he said, I will gladly discuss it with you. I have not heard ANY news for the last couple of days as I did not watch any news nor did I read or hear any news as I spent the weekend outside away from media entirely. I highly recommend doing so occasionally.

But please don't put words or label me with assumptions as to my positions on things that I have not seen nor heard.

AZRWinger 06-05-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 891660)
What crime will she be charged with? She's a comedienne protected by the 1st amendment do I really have to tell you there is a an amendment before the 2nd. Now you are just being silly.

Attempting to be humorous doesn’t grant immunity from prosecution for threatening the life of the President particularly when the image shows beheading a favorite technique of Islamic extremists. :thumbsup

The violent image was constructed for distribution world wide on the Internet clearly an incitement for violence. Taking to the podium calling for anyone to be murdered is not protected as artistic expression. Would you have politicians carrying replicas of their opponents to press conferences or rallies? After all, it is artistic expression. :rolls

Unlike the Trump hating lynch mob I advocate the appropriate law enforcement agencies investigate Griffin and the photographer to determine if there is evidence of a crime. Make no mistake, the violent image provides plenty of reasonable cause for at least an interview like Ted Nugent had.:thumbsup

Mikeyy 06-06-2017 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 891802)
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I am NOT a Republican. I tend to vote for more Republicans that Democrats due mainly to the fact that they generally align with my positions more so than Democrats do, but I am NOT a Republican.


If you could point me to that Nugent said or even summarize what he said, I will gladly discuss it with you. I have not heard ANY news for the last couple of days as I did not watch any news nor did I read or hear any news as I spent the weekend outside away from media entirely. I highly recommend doing so occasionally.

But please don't put words or label me with assumptions as to my positions on things that I have not seen nor heard.

go to google and type "Ted Nugent threats to Obama" or " Ted Nugent sex with a child". This isn't that hard unless you are purposefully playing dumb.

Surly 06-06-2017 07:24 AM

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He is also a draft dodger and he "hunts" animals in a cage (fence anyway) Ted is the perfect example of how the Republicans have changed since 1980. who was he called subhuman?
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Originally Posted by Mikeyy (Post 891977)
go to google and type "Ted Nugent threats to Obama" or " Ted Nugent sex with a child". This isn't that hard unless you are purposefully playing dumb.


AZRWinger 06-06-2017 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Surly (Post 891978)
He is also a draft dodger and he "hunts" animals in a cage (fence anyway) Ted is the perfect example of how the Republicans have changed since 1980. who was he called subhuman?

Back to the topic of the thread, Nugent was interviewed by the Secret Service for his stunt as part of their investigation. That is a far cry from those who claim depicting the bloody severed head of the President as an absolute right of artistic expression. :rolls

CindyB 06-06-2017 05:24 PM

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Ted Nugent deserved to be paid a visit by Secret Service for sure
and the hunting animals that are fenced in is just beyond the pale. :mad

But I don't think he is a pervert. That girl wasn't a 'child'
but she sure wasn't legal.

I think the deal with this is, the picture is so ISIS-like, that really bummed people out.

Mikeyy 06-06-2017 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CindyB (Post 892061)
Ted Nugent deserved to be paid a visit by Secret Service for sure
and the hunting animals that are fenced in is just beyond the pale. :mad

But I don't think he is a pervert. That girl wasn't a 'child'
but she sure wasn't legal.

I think the deal with this is, the picture is so ISIS-like, that really bummed people out.

But when Bill Clinton had a bj from a 22 year old he was a perv. How old was Nugents sexual partner? And isn't interesting how the right from trump, plain, huckabee and others have embraced Ted Nugent

foundit66 06-06-2017 07:38 PM

Re: Kathy Griffin holds bloodied Trump mask in photo shoot with Tyler Shields
 
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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 891984)
Back to the topic of the thread, Nugent was interviewed by the Secret Service for his stunt as part of their investigation. That is a far cry from those who claim depicting the bloody severed head of the President as an absolute right of artistic expression.

Whether or not something is a good idea is not the same thing as saying it is not first amendment free speech protected.

We're in agreement Kathy Griffin's stunt was dumb.

Do you think it is or should be illegal?


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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 891819)
Attempting to be humorous doesn’t grant immunity from prosecution for threatening the life of the President particularly when the image shows beheading a favorite technique of Islamic extremists.

What would she be prosecuted for?
What law?


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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 891819)
The violent image was constructed for distribution world wide on the Internet clearly an incitement for violence. Taking to the podium calling for anyone to be murdered is not protected as artistic expression. Would you have politicians carrying replicas of their opponents to press conferences or rallies? After all, it is artistic expression.

What's amusing is that the right refuses to acknowledge what Trump was saying from his bully pulpit during the election cycle... :rolls
But Kathy Griffin's picture is supposedly "inciting violence".

Your logistic reasoning is motivated by partisan politics.


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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 891819)
Unlike the Trump hating lynch mob I advocate the appropriate law enforcement agencies investigate Griffin and the photographer to determine if there is evidence of a crime. Make no mistake, the violent image provides plenty of reasonable cause for at least an interview like Ted Nugent had.

"evidence of a crime" ?!?!?!@???
WHAT CRIME are you even talking about with this?

Deckard 06-06-2017 08:56 PM

Re: Kathy Griffin holds bloodied Trump mask in photo shoot with Tyler Shields
 
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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 891777)
While for the most party, things comedians say ARE protected by the 1st Amendment, this could be seen as an indirect threat to the POTUS. In that case, it can be considered a crime in that it is illegal to make threats against the POTUS.

Honestly you think Kathy Griffin is a threat to trump? Of course you don't and no reasonable person would.

GetAClue 06-08-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 892082)
Honestly you think Kathy Griffin is a threat to trump? Of course you don't and no reasonable person would.

I never claimed such, that is your implication. I said that it COULD be seen as a threat and that the Secret Service takes ALL threats seriously and COULD charge her.

Hairy Jello 11-20-2017 01:08 PM

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Let the tears and whining begin!

Yet another lib celeb who can't live with the consequences of their actions.

Kathy Griffin complains she's unemployable after being 'blacklisted' from Hollywood for Trump photo scandal | Fox News

jimbo 11-20-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hairy Jello (Post 918946)
Let the tears and whining begin!

Yet another lib celeb who can't live with the consequences of their actions.

Kathy Griffin complains she's unemployable after being 'blacklisted' from Hollywood for Trump photo scandal | Fox News

Poor baby.

Along with the freedom to speak, there is the obligation to accept the consequences.

Maybe Koepernick will treat you to lunch.

GetAClue 11-20-2017 02:03 PM

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I heard her this morning complaining that no other women has had it as rough as she has. Then she went on to blame everyone else for the consequences that she is suffering through, everyone but herself.

CindyB 11-20-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GetAClue (Post 918952)
I heard her this morning complaining that no other women has had it as rough as she has. Then she went on to blame everyone else for the consequences that she is suffering through, everyone but herself.

The far left are always the 'victim' according to them. :rolls
I cant stand that bitch Kathy Griffin, I hope she never works again.

GottaGo 11-20-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CindyB (Post 918972)
The far left are always the 'victim' according to them. :rolls
I cant stand that bitch Kathy Griffin, I hope she never works again.

Gee, Cindy, tell us what you REALLY think. ;)

I actually feel sorry for her.... she has no clue, and likely never will, that actions have consequences. What she did was not funny nor entertaining.

Mikeyy 11-20-2017 10:31 PM

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Is this thread alive again?

saltwn 11-20-2017 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy (Post 919031)
Is this thread alive again?



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