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Old 04-21-2017, 12:44 PM
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I let Orkin know today we will not be renewing our 20 year old contract on my factory.
I don't own a Subaru, BMW, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, or a Lexus. I won't be buying one anytime soon.
T Rowe Price,,,; no
Allstate insurance since 1970. Likely leaving them as well.
Glaxo-Kline,,,; No
Wayfair is a Wal-Mart company . Still shop at Wally's but no Wayfair business.
U-Tuck-it,,,; No

All good companies I like, who pulled their Ads over allegations made in a nation where one can quite literally sue a ham sandwich. Without repercussions for filing a frivolous law suit in our very overcrowded Tort Courts.

No testimony has been made public, none of the allegations are publically known. This was no more than a concerted organized effort to silence a vanguard of free speech nd honest political commentary.

The PC crowd couldn't shut down the arguments, much less win them, in the public arena, so they got him shut down with the Anita Hill approach. Un- proven, untested, unsubstantiated, allegations.
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But a guy who trashes vets, who trashes gold star families, who brags about grabbing pussies, who says you can do what you want because you are wealthy, who is disrespected around the world, who lies to us all the time, that's not only worth your support and your vote. The bubble of partisanship you alt right people live in is a wonder to behold.


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I let Orkin know today we will not be renewing our 20 year old contract on my factory.
I don't own a Subaru, BMW, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, or a Lexus. I won't be buying one anytime soon.
T Rowe Price,,,; no
Allstate insurance since 1970. Likely leaving them as well.
Glaxo-Kline,,,; No
Wayfair is a Wal-Mart company . Still shop at Wally's but no Wayfair business.
U-Tuck-it,,,; No

All good companies I like, who pulled their Ads over allegations made in a nation where one can quite literally sue a ham sandwich. Without repercussions for filing a frivolous law suit in our very overcrowded Tort Courts.

No testimony has been made public, none of the allegations are publically known. This was no more than a concerted organized effort to silence a vanguard of free speech nd honest political commentary.

The PC crowd couldn't shut down the arguments, much less win them, in the public arena, so they got him shut down with the Anita Hill approach. Un- proven, untested, unsubstantiated, allegations.
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But a guy who trashes vets, who trashes gold star families, who brags about grabbing pussies, who says you can do what you want because you are wealthy, who is disrespected around the world, who lies to us all the time, that's not only worth your support and your vote. The bubble of partisanship you alt right people live in is a wonder to behold.
You are seriously vapid and devoid of any serious thought. An erudite who never fails to divert responses to a trashing of Trump. Diverting the thread to validate your hatred.

News' flash, this isn't about President Trump.

However, if it makes you happy, I'll not make reservations at a Trump Property. Never have and never will. You can put it on my list.
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Un- proven, untested, unsubstantiated, allegations.
The absurdity of your response is summed up in the context of this statement.

WHY are these "allegations" "Un- proven, untested, unsubstantiated"?
It's definitely not the fault of the PC crowd.
It's because Fox decided to shell out $13 million rather than risk the info going public. In fact, part of the settlements were requirements for the victims to remain silent.

The real reason this came to a head is because one of the victims refused Fox's hush money.

And WHO DECIDED to kick O'Reilly to the curb?
Again, it was Fox. The guys who looked at the "allegations" and decided they were too damaging to allow them to be heard.


But of course, you blame the "PC crowd".
Perhaps when Bill Clinton was hounded for claims of sexual harassment, that was brought about by the "PC crowd" as well?
No. Of course not.

Or maybe it's simply more accurate that you're trying to attack people ("PC crowd") who shouldn't be attacked to help overlook somebody who obviously has a problem with serial sexual harassment...
The alternative is that Fox is run by cowards and morons who would rather shell out $13 million and lose a prime viewer resource like O'Reilly...
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Has anyone heard what he did? or what he said?

So far we know that he called an attractive black woman "Hot Chocolate"

And a couple blonde women "Hot Blonde's"

There must be something bad that he did, I wish they would just put it out there.
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Good for you, brother.

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I let Orkin know today we will not be renewing our 20 year old contract on my factory.
I don't own a Subaru, BMW, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, or a Lexus. I won't be buying one anytime soon.
T Rowe Price,,,; no
Allstate insurance since 1970. Likely leaving them as well.
Glaxo-Kline,,,; No
Wayfair is a Wal-Mart company . Still shop at Wally's but no Wayfair business.
U-Tuck-it,,,; No

All good companies I like, who pulled their Ads over allegations made in a nation where one can quite literally sue a ham sandwich. Without repercussions for filing a frivolous law suit in our very overcrowded Tort Courts.

No testimony has been made public, none of the allegations are publically known. This was no more than a concerted organized effort to silence a vanguard of free speech nd honest political commentary.

The PC crowd couldn't shut down the arguments, much less win them, in the public arena, so they got him shut down with the Anita Hill approach. Un- proven, untested, unsubstantiated, allegations.
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The absurdity of your response is summed up in the context of this statement.

WHY are these "allegations" "Un- proven, untested, unsubstantiated"?
It's definitely not the fault of the PC crowd.
It's because Fox decided to shell out $13 million rather than risk the info going public. In fact, part of the settlements were requirements for the victims to remain silent.

The real reason this came to a head is because one of the victims refused Fox's hush money.

And WHO DECIDED to kick O'Reilly to the curb?
Again, it was Fox. The guys who looked at the "allegations" and decided they were too damaging to allow them to be heard.


But of course, you blame the "PC crowd".
Perhaps when Bill Clinton was hounded for claims of sexual harassment, that was brought about by the "PC crowd" as well?
No. Of course not.

Or maybe it's simply more accurate that you're trying to attack people ("PC crowd") who shouldn't be attacked to help overlook somebody who obviously has a problem with serial sexual harassment...
The alternative is that Fox is run by cowards and morons who would rather shell out $13 million and lose a prime viewer resource like O'Reilly...
Because they have only been made.

Guilty until proven innocent right?

I'm going on what we know, not what we want to believe.

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With the exception that someone accused him of something,,,,you know of no facts. If and when you do, present them. Until then you know only what you wish to believe. Which in this case seems to be that Bill O'Reilly is accused and therefore must be guilty of "something."

Based on what? The seriousness of the allegations?



Seriously?
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WHY are these "allegations" "Un- proven, untested, unsubstantiated"?
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Because they have only been made.
I am guessing that your reply corresponds to the above question. If I'm wrong, please correct me and let me know the actual question.

Assuming the question / answer match...
No. Your reply is not an accurate assessment.
One of the first complaints was in 2004 from Andrea Mackris. Another in 2011.

There have been more recent accusations but it's easily recognized that people will pay money to ensure other people can claim "unproven, untested, unsubstantiated".

The reason they are "unproven, untested, unsubstantiated" is because there were legal settlements with payouts to the women involved.
And you want a presumption of innocence, despite the clear pattern...


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Guilty until proven innocent right?
Innocent until proven guilty is the standard in a court of law.
When it comes to employment, employers can fire somebody for almost anything. The reasons employers are restricted from firing somebody is actually very small.

And regarding the standard in a court of law, when Fox News explicitly avoids the court of law by requiring a non-disclosure agreement in their settlement, it guarantees the truth will never be found.

So again, you're essentially allowing a rich corporation to pay somebody so that others should assume innocence.
And then you get to blame anybody else who sees the situation as profoundly f***ed up.

As reminder, this pattern is also what made it problematic for the Catholic Church.
They paid people (and required legal agreements) to keep quiet protecting the assailant and allowing others to be new prey without warning.


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I'm going on what we know, not what we want to believe.
Should Fox go off of what Fox knows?
They're the ones with the knowledge that lead them to pay out $13 million.
They're the ones with the knowledge that lead to firing O'Reilly.
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He left based on allegations of wrong-doing. Just as his accusers received compensation settlements so did O'Reilly. Oh wait, O'Reilly doesn’t agree with Left wing politics so he must be guilty and entitled to no severance period. Heck let's get a rope and find a tree. He is guilty of having the #1 rated show.
I find it pretty amazing the level of critical thinking skills
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Has anyone heard what he did? or what he said?

So far we know that he called an attractive black woman "Hot Chocolate"

And a couple blonde women "Hot Blonde's"

There must be something bad that he did, I wish they would just put it out there.
Since you are posting on a forum you have the internet. Their claims are all over cyberspace.
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