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Old 03-20-2017, 05:57 PM
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At less than 5% of the population they have plenty. Our Military should be off limits to those who are not willing to be booted out for being out about their gayness. I have no issue with any of them being forced out of the military.

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Friends honor gay soldier Maj. Alan Rogers, killed in Iraq, after repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

Technical Sergeant Leonard P. Matlovich (July 6, 1943 – June 22, 1988)[1] was a Vietnam War veteran, race relations instructor, and recipient of the Purple Heart and the Bronze Star.[2]

In the 10 years since the Pentagon announced its new policy towards gays in the military - the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell" - almost 10,000 men and women have been forced out of the armed services.

One of them is Lt. Col. Steve Loomis, once a rising star, and a decorated war hero.

In his case, the Army never asked about his homosexuality, and he didn't tell. And yet despite his long and distinguished career, he was kicked out -- just eight days shy of being eligible for his pension. Correspondent Morley Safer reports.
"It's my private issue, my private life. It was none of the Army's damn business," says Loomis, a gay man, career soldier and decorated hero. He came to the Vietnam Memorial to recall his worst day in a terrible war. He was a 2nd Lieutenant, leading his platoon through a village in the Central Highlands of Vietnam.

"We left the village. And not more than 300 yards outside the village we were ambushed. In the course of that, I did what I was supposed to do," recalls Loomis.

Exposed to hostile gunfire, Loomis says he helped all his men make it out that day, all but one: "Feb. 8th, 1970 ... the letter home was difficult. I had to write that letter."
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big surprise a group of men includes gays or people who like dirty pictures.
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Friends honor gay soldier Maj. Alan Rogers, killed in Iraq, after repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

Technical Sergeant Leonard P. Matlovich (July 6, 1943 – June 22, 1988)[1] was a Vietnam War veteran, race relations instructor, and recipient of the Purple Heart and the Bronze Star.[2]

In the 10 years since the Pentagon announced its new policy towards gays in the military - the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell" - almost 10,000 men and women have been forced out of the armed services.

One of them is Lt. Col. Steve Loomis, once a rising star, and a decorated war hero.

In his case, the Army never asked about his homosexuality, and he didn't tell. And yet despite his long and distinguished career, he was kicked out -- just eight days shy of being eligible for his pension. Correspondent Morley Safer reports.
"It's my private issue, my private life. It was none of the Army's damn business," says Loomis, a gay man, career soldier and decorated hero. He came to the Vietnam Memorial to recall his worst day in a terrible war. He was a 2nd Lieutenant, leading his platoon through a village in the Central Highlands of Vietnam.

"We left the village. And not more than 300 yards outside the village we were ambushed. In the course of that, I did what I was supposed to do," recalls Loomis.

Exposed to hostile gunfire, Loomis says he helped all his men make it out that day, all but one: "Feb. 8th, 1970 ... the letter home was difficult. I had to write that letter."
So 1,000 people per year on average were kicked out for being gay? Do you know how many people total per year get kicked out of the military? Were any of the gays punished?
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Friends honor gay soldier Maj. Alan Rogers, killed in Iraq, after repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

Technical Sergeant Leonard P. Matlovich (July 6, 1943 – June 22, 1988)[1] was a Vietnam War veteran, race relations instructor, and recipient of the Purple Heart and the Bronze Star.[2]

In the 10 years since the Pentagon announced its new policy towards gays in the military - the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell" - almost 10,000 men and women have been forced out of the armed services.

One of them is Lt. Col. Steve Loomis, once a rising star, and a decorated war hero.

In his case, the Army never asked about his homosexuality, and he didn't tell. And yet despite his long and distinguished career, he was kicked out -- just eight days shy of being eligible for his pension. Correspondent Morley Safer reports.
"It's my private issue, my private life. It was none of the Army's damn business," says Loomis, a gay man, career soldier and decorated hero. He came to the Vietnam Memorial to recall his worst day in a terrible war. He was a 2nd Lieutenant, leading his platoon through a village in the Central Highlands of Vietnam.

"We left the village. And not more than 300 yards outside the village we were ambushed. In the course of that, I did what I was supposed to do," recalls Loomis.

Exposed to hostile gunfire, Loomis says he helped all his men make it out that day, all but one: "Feb. 8th, 1970 ... the letter home was difficult. I had to write that letter."
If we did not allow gays in the Military none of this would be a problem. But for the benefit of a very small minority of our population we are now a laughing stock. How proud of that are you?

Some times there should be simple majority rules. This is one of those times.

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Back when DADT was abolished I said that this would create a problem with Hetero's enlisting in the military. Enlistment is at a 75 year low. You can blame it on something else if you want, go ahead, I will listen.

Here is an analogy about a bar that we used to frequent. They had pool tables, bands etc... A new owner came in that was gay, and it became a gay bar, everything else was the same, but we stopped going there. Guess what? it eventually failed and went out of business. Fact is, Gay's flock to gay friendly places, that's human nature.

Now what will the end result be? Will Obama be to blame if we need to institute a draft to keep the numbers where they need to be?
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If we did not allow gays in the Military none of this would be a problem. But for the benefit of a very small minority of our population we are now a laughing stock. How proud of that are you?

Some times there should be simple majority rules. This is one of those times.

Regards, Kirk
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Back when DADT was abolished I said that this would create a problem with Hetero's enlisting in the military. Enlistment is at a 75 year low. You can blame it on something else if you want, go ahead, I will listen.

Here is an analogy about a bar that we used to frequent. They had pool tables, bands etc... A new owner came in that was gay, and it became a gay bar, everything else was the same, but we stopped going there. Guess what? it eventually failed and went out of business. Fact is, Gay's flock to gay friendly places, that's human nature.

Now what will the end result be? Will Obama be to blame if we need to institute a draft to keep the numbers where they need to be?


Yet we have to remember that by joining the Military one is gaining a job with full benefits, which can be applied toward other employment within the Federal System...

A motivator if one decides to serve for employment reasons first, the country and service isn't the prime reason in cases such as this.

I always think back to why I joined. A tradition in our Military Family.. And I was/am proud. Yet I never considered gainful Federal employment after my service.
And I lost out as far as benefits. Oh I got some great jobs that paid well. But benefits were always lacking.

My line of thought is any Liberal joining the military most often does it for Federal Employment after their time of service. If they want the F.B.I. then they go into the Military Police for example.

While most other do it for the country and self.
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Back when DADT was abolished I said that this would create a problem with Hetero's enlisting in the military. Enlistment is at a 75 year low. You can blame it on something else if you want, go ahead, I will listen.
But will you remember?

I've already addressed this crap from you before.

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You should stop listening to talk radio for all your news...
https://www.rt.com/usa/158992-milita...ejection-rate/
Recruitment isn't lower because of lack of applicants.
Military turns down 80 percent of applicants as armed forces shrink

Enlistment is hitting their numbers.
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If we did not allow gays in the Military none of this would be a problem. But for the benefit of a very small minority of our population we are now a laughing stock. How proud of that are you?
"We" aren't a laughing stock.

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Some times there should be simple majority rules. This is one of those times.
When will you get it through your head when you are NOT the majority.

Can you show me ANY POLL which says that a majority object to gays in the military?

You can't.
In U.S., Broad, Steady Support for Openly Gay Service Members | Gallup
Most Continue to Favor Gays Serving Openly in Military | Pew Research Center
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When will you get it through your head when you are NOT the majority.

Can you show me ANY POLL which says that a majority object to gays in the military?

You can't.
The Uniform Code of Military Justice (article 134) and other military regulations prohibit the wearing of the uniform or any part of it while the serviceman is performing or is an actor or model in any sexual or political set or anything deemed detrimental to the service. The wording may vary, but there is your majority opinion, never mind the homos in the military objection, when it comes to sexual flaunting, hetero or homo, while in uniform. Isn't that what the topic is about?

Note--Article 134 UCMJ is called the "catch-all" article.
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