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Others saw economic worries in the proposal. The blueprint would cut almost all the $300 million in funding for the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative, raising concern among some in the Ohio counties along Lake Erie.

The initiative was started to help limit invasive species such as the Asian carp, among other threats. It was meant to reduce dangers such as the outbreak of bacteria in 2014 that contaminated drinking water for nearly 500,000 people living around Toledo. Trump's budget plan says that these programs should be the responsibility of state and local governments.

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This seems very short sighted to me. If the Asian carp gets a stronger foothold in the Great lakes that would be a disaster of epic proportions.

Other things that might be cut are regional airports:


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"Some people might think it's a betrayal," said Eric Waara, the Republican city manager of the 7,000-person town of Houghton on Michigan's Upper Peninsula, who said he hoped the proposal was just a negotiating tactic. "I think that we all hope it's the first small step until something better."

Houghton sits more than 200 miles from a major highway and for many residents the Houghton County Memorial Airport is their connection to the outside world. Trump's proposed elimination of the Transportation Department's Essential Air Service program, or EAS, could force the airport to close or dramatically curtail service, leaving residents with a four-hour drive to Green Bay, Wisconsin, or eight hours to Chicago to catch a flight, Waara said. The administration said it would save $175 million a year.

Trump carried Houghton County with more than 54 percent of the vote as he became the first Republican to win Michigan since 1988. He got more than 50 percent of the vote in 86 of the 111 communities served by EAS, according to an Associated Press analysis of voting data.
I bet that would backfire on Trump were it to come to fruition.
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This seems very short sighted to me. If the Asian carp gets a stronger foothold in the Great lakes that would be a disaster of epic proportions.

Other things that might be cut are regional airports:




I bet that would backfire on Trump were it to come to fruition.
From the perspective of a lefty, I can understand how such news would be taken. But most who voted for Trump did so because they understand his message that the Federal Government is not the source of our nation's wealth or power. It has simply absorbed them from the people.

As Ronney Reagan so famously advised," I'm from the government and here to help." is not good news for a taxpayer. He went on to say "the Government IS the problem." And in most every case, he was right.

Trump supporters didn't vote for more freebies. I would suggest, most, who expect freebies from the gubmit, voted for the other guy.
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From the perspective of a lefty, I can understand how such news would be taken. But most who voted for Trump did so because they understand his message that the Federal Government is not the source of our nation's wealth or power. It has simply absorbed them from the people.

As Ronney Reagan so famously advised," I'm from the government and here to help." is not good news for a taxpayer. He went on to say "the Government IS the problem." And in most every case, he was right.

Trump supporters didn't vote for more freebies. I would suggest, most, who expect freebies from the gubmit, voted for the other guy.
You are being penny wise and pound foolish.

The establishment of Asian carps could cause great economic impact to the Great Lakes commercial, and sport fisheries collectively valued at more than $7 billion annually.
2006 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife Associated Recreation

Reduced abundance of native fishes will result in reduced harvest by sport and commercial fishers. Reduced harvest will cause reduction in angling quality, and economic impact to those whose livelihood depends on sport and commercial fisheries.

The potential impact of Asian carps on the Great Lakes sport and commercial fishing industry can be seen now along the Mississippi River basin—where in just a few short years following introduction of Asian carp into an area, many commercial fishing locations have been abandoned, as native fish have nearly disappeared from the catch, replaced by Asian carp.

In 2002, a workshop convened by the Great Lakes Protection Fund predicted that introduction of Asian carps into the Great Lakes would threaten the sport and commercial fisheries, and could result in ecological and economic damages far exceeding those caused by the sea lamprey and zebra
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You are being penny wise and pound foolish.

The establishment of Asian carps could cause great economic impact to the Great Lakes commercial, and sport fisheries collectively valued at more than $7 billion annually.
2006 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife Associated Recreation

Reduced abundance of native fishes will result in reduced harvest by sport and commercial fishers. Reduced harvest will cause reduction in angling quality, and economic impact to those whose livelihood depends on sport and commercial fisheries.

The potential impact of Asian carps on the Great Lakes sport and commercial fishing industry can be seen now along the Mississippi River basin—where in just a few short years following introduction of Asian carp into an area, many commercial fishing locations have been abandoned, as native fish have nearly disappeared from the catch, replaced by Asian carp.

In 2002, a workshop convened by the Great Lakes Protection Fund predicted that introduction of Asian carps into the Great Lakes would threaten the sport and commercial fisheries, and could result in ecological and economic damages far exceeding those caused by the sea lamprey and zebra

Is Asian carp your whole case? Or just the cause of the day?

As for me, I had no idea they were supporters of anyone's politics.

I'm surprised a Moderator has allowed your title which speaks of American voters but your thread, and it's supporting link, is about the Asian carp issue. An issue BTW with which I share your concerns. But I could not resist using the opportunity to point out the discrepancy with a little bit of farce. It's almost too convenient that you did so, and perhaps I will be accused of prompting your post to prove a point.

Again, I am being farcical.

To the thread topic, not it's title,,,;
I'm not sure there is enough money ever to solve the invasion of Asian carp. As someone who caught one of these fish literally in the face while skiing, I would love to seem them irradicated. But my neighbor, who does not ski, is not so inclined to be taxed for my pleasure,,,; or the occupational security of commercial fisheries.

Sadly, in today's American Democracy, only the agenda deJour' gets attention in Congress... We have Bathrooms to police . Perhaps the fishermen can be retrained to make the new "Whatever sex you want to be today" signs.

Sorry I can't help it
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You are being penny wise and pound foolish.

The establishment of Asian carps could cause great economic impact to the Great Lakes commercial, and sport fisheries collectively valued at more than $7 billion annually.
2006 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife Associated Recreation

Reduced abundance of native fishes will result in reduced harvest by sport and commercial fishers. Reduced harvest will cause reduction in angling quality, and economic impact to those whose livelihood depends on sport and commercial fisheries.

The potential impact of Asian carps on the Great Lakes sport and commercial fishing industry can be seen now along the Mississippi River basin—where in just a few short years following introduction of Asian carp into an area, many commercial fishing locations have been abandoned, as native fish have nearly disappeared from the catch, replaced by Asian carp.

In 2002, a workshop convened by the Great Lakes Protection Fund predicted that introduction of Asian carps into the Great Lakes would threaten the sport and commercial fisheries, and could result in ecological and economic damages far exceeding those caused by the sea lamprey and zebra
I thought the Carp kept the lake clean, no? pigeons of the sea.
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Is Asian carp your whole case? Or just the cause of the day?

As for me, I had no idea they were supporters of anyone's politics.
Wow just wow
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Wow just wow
Sorry, I amended my post. Please re-read and it will make more sense.
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I'm glad they defunded the Arts, people don't care about it enough to privately fund it. So it must not be that important.
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Will we be adults or children? The ugly truth about America's spending | Fox News

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You can already hear the howling.

Oh the humanity, Trump is killing Big Bird.

The world is in danger of climate destruction, Trump is ending payments to the Green Climate Fund that pays off foreign governments to support radical environmental proposals under the false flag of global warming.

The world is on the brink of chaos as the United States contribution to the United Nations is cut to the same level as every other Security Council member pays.

Here is the ugly truth.

We are twenty trillion dollars in debt. We have hit the debt ceiling and the federal government is taking what is called “extraordinary measures” to keep us solvent until Congress either balances the budget at current levels or raises the ceiling again.

Of the debt, more than a quarter of that money is owed to ourselves through IOUs issued to the Social Security and Medicare Trust Funds, the Federal Reserve and other intergovernment entities, about 32 percent is owed to governments around the world, including approximately $1.1 Trillion to the government of Japan and $1 Trillion to China, and the remainder is owed to private banks and individual investors in everything from savings bonds to mutual fund holdings of government Treasury bills.

And the situation is not getting better.

The Congressional Budget Office reports that overall federal government spending has increased by approximately $1.13 Trillion over the past decade, while tax revenues have increased by $699 Billion with the result being a more than doubling of our national debt during the previous ten years. To make matters worse, while the national debt has been skyrocketing, our nation’s economy has not grown by more than 3 percent since 2005 which used to be considered normal growth, causing our overall debt to GDP to increase to an unsustainable 107 percent.

Fortunately, we currently enjoy historically low interest rates, keeping total interest payments on the debt at a mere $433 billion, a number which dwarfs every discretionary budget expenditure except defense and is about 70 percent of the Pentagon budget. The most alarming part of our nation’s interest costs, is that they are completely dependent upon demand for our government debt on the open market.
Continued at site...............

The democrats are acting like children, and do not understand the difference between a want and a need.

When the typical household is over extended they must do something to cut their budgets. The first things to go are luxury's that they can no longer afford. Congress needs to do the same, and the programs outlined to be slashed, (even though they make yup less than 3% of the budget,) is a good place to start.
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The democrats are acting like children, and do not understand the difference between a want and a need.

When the typical household is over extended they must do something to cut their budgets. The first things to go are luxury's that they can no longer afford. Congress needs to do the same, and the programs outlined to be slashed, (even though they make yup less than 3% of the budget,) is a good place to start.
This is about Asian carp dude! You're off topic
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