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You're correct. I usually don't get all the way through U Tube videos posted by unnamed videoers which contain no verifiable facts.
That's why I had the second link.
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That's why I had the second link.
Don't pay much attention to doomsday predictions from the Times either.
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If you want to reduce spending, somebodies ox gets gored. That is acceptable to most as long as it's not theirs.

True and then don't add 58 billion or more to beef up another area as it just levels the debt out. Nothing more. So in reality there is NO lets lower the debt period!

Climate change study needs to go. 50 years and no real results. Miami is not under water, polar bears are still thriving. Most people in the US have clean air and water. Those in many other countries never have.

The wall will not get built. Illegal residents will stop or diminish greatly. The military will get larger, decrease, or stay the same.

Elections have consequences.
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And if you had bothered to check out the links it now happens on bright and sun shiny days.
winston, what is right in front of these deniers faces is to be ignored by them, Hell they don't bother with any links or material provided by anyone else.

As they have their pat stance and lines of denials.

When they prove to me they failed to view material provided I end it right there, as why bother with them from that point on? Plain to do so.
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Well the W.H. is defending their cutting of many social welfare programs, like "Meals On Wheels" that the older people get delivered to the front door. Or the

after-school care that school children living in poverty receive, as with many other social programs. Foreign aid is taking a hit to..

So that just two major items can receive money or increases. The Wall that was promised and the Military which is getting additional 58 billion to spend...

Just warms the cockals with in the heart doesn't. Oh yes another item to get hit will delight some here, Climate Change...

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Sorry Charlie, Meals on Wheels is not being cut, that is FAKE NEWS. Washington Post is a fake news Trump hating paper and web site.

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Did President Trump Announce Plans to End the 'Meals on Wheels' Program?

A budget blueprint released by the Trump administration would cut funding for a program that partially funds the Meals on Wheels program but would not end Meals on Wheels itself.

The Trump administration released a blueprint budget that would eliminate funding for the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) program, which provides partial funding for local Meals on Wheels groups.

The national Meals on Wheels office receives the bulk of its funding from sources other than the CDBG; the effect of CDBG cuts on local Meals on Wheels groups is uncertain.

ORIGIN

On 15 March 2017, the web site Occupy Democrats published an article about a blueprint budget released by the Trump administration under the sensationalized title “Trump Just Announced Plan to End ‘Meals on Wheels’ for Seniors.” Although the text of the article was largely accurate, the clickbait headline misled many readers into believing that President Trump had specifically proposed to eliminate Meals on Wheels, a service that delivers meals to individuals at home (primarily seniors) who are unable to purchase or prepare meals for themselves.

However, President Trump’s blueprint budget does not mention or target Meals on Wheels, nor would the adoption of that budget spell the end of Meals on Wheels. Rather, the blueprint contained a section proposing the elimination of funding for the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) program:

Eliminates funding for the Community Development Block Grant program, a savings of $3 billion from the 2017 annualized CR level. The Federal Government has spent over $150 billion on this block grant since its inception in 1974, but the program is not well-targeted to the poorest populations and has not demonstrated results.

The Community Development Block Grand Program is used to fund a variety of community projects by providing grants to state and local governments, who then allocate the funds to city programs (of which Meals on Wheels is one example):

The Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) program is a flexible program that provides communities with resources to address a wide range of unique community development needs. Beginning in 1974, the CDBG program is one of the longest continuously run programs at HUD. The CDBG program provides annual grants on a formula basis to 1209 general units of local government and States.

The CDBG program works to ensure decent affordable housing, to provide services to the most vulnerable in our communities, and to create jobs through the expansion and retention of businesses. CDBG is an important tool for helping local governments tackle serious challenges facing their communities. The CDBG program has made a difference in the lives of millions of people and their communities across the Nation.

As CNN noted, one example of how the federal CDBG program works is as follows:

The government of San Jose, California, spends federal CDBG funds on homeless outreach, resolving “slum and blight” and other community development needs.

In a statement issued before Trump’s budget blueprint was released, the city said it expected to receive more than $2.5 million in funding for the 2016-2017 fiscal year. It planned to spend $100,650 of that on Meals on Wheels.

Other expenditures included legal aid, senior assistance, literacy programs and home repair for the poor.

The elimination of the federal CDBG program would reduce local funding for a number of programs, including Meals on Wheels, but the overall impact on the program is uncertain. According to the Meals on Wheels 2015 annual report, the majority of the national office’s funding (about 84%) comes from individual contributions, while only 3% comes from federal grants such as the CDBG program provides:

Though the [budget] blueprint doesn’t contain enough detail to know for certain how local Meals on Wheels programs will be affected, spokeswoman Jenny Bertolette said, “It is difficult to imagine a scenario in which they will not be significantly and negatively impacted if the President’s budget were enacted.”

Programs across the country are already serving 23 million fewer meals than they did in 2005, and waiting lists to join Meals on Wheels are growing, she said.

About 3% of the budget for Meals on Wheels’ national office comes from government grants (84% comes from individual contributions and grants from corporations and foundations), but the national association provides support and representation for a larger network of 5,000 independently operated local groups, Bertolette said.

Meals on Wheels explained in a clarifying statement that their 5,000 local, community-based programs receive 35% of their total funding from the federal government through the Older Americans Act, and that some local chapters also receive funding from the Community Development Block Grant:

The nationwide Meals on Wheels network, comprised of 5,000, local, community-based programs, receives 35% of its total funding for the provision of congregate and home-delivered meals from the federal government through the Older Americans Act, administered by the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Community Living. Other federal funding sources that support Meals on Wheels program operations may include the Community Development Block Grant, Community Services Block Grant or the Social Services Block Grant. In addition, programs rely on contributions from state or local governments, private donations and other resources to cover the rest, demonstrating one of the best examples of a successful public-private partnership. Meals on Wheels America, the largest and oldest national organization representing senior nutrition programs across the country, receives only 3% of its funding from the government, specifically to run the National Research Center on Nutrition and Aging.

Although President Trump’s blueprint budget specifically stated that it would eliminate the CDBG, local Meals on Wheels groups would still receive federal funding through the Older Americans Act. However, the budget plan also proposes a nearly 18% cut to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), and this could also potentially reduce the amount of funding local groups receive via the Older Americans Act:

“If [HHS is] getting a substantial cut, one can assume or think that those cuts will trickle down through the programs and that could end up hurting Meals on Wheels even more than the block grant,” Bertolette says.

All in all, some local Meals on Wheels groups will likely have to make up revenue shortfalls through alternative sources or cut back on their services if funding cuts are made to the CDBG program and HHS, but the national Meals on Wheels program itself won’t be shut down.
Did President Trump Announce Plans to End the 'Meals on Wheels' Program?

From what I read yesterday Meals on Wheels gets just 3% of their funding from (CDBG)
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Sorry Charlie, Meals on Wheels is not being cut, that is FAKE NEWS. Washington Post is a fake news Trump hating paper and web site.



Did President Trump Announce Plans to End the 'Meals on Wheels' Program?

From what I read yesterday Meals on Wheels gets just 3% of their funding from (CDBG)
Excuse me Cindy but why have you not attacked winstons thread in the Presidents topic area on the same damn thing? You like me more or what?

Or just maybe this isn't fake news?

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Excuse me Cindy but why have you not attacked winstons thread in the Presidents topic area on the same damn thing? You like me more or what?

Or just maybe this isn't fake news?

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/pre...results-2.html
Why do you post in a debate forum then jump on everybody who dares to have a differing opinion.

My guess as to why Cindy posted here and addressed your post here is because Cindy and your post were here.

Am I now supposed to go back and check every thread to be sure that I am not missing the thread you feel is more important?
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Why do you post in a debate forum then jump on everybody who dares to have a differing opinion.

My guess as to why Cindy posted here and addressed your post here is because Cindy and your post were here.

Am I now supposed to go back and check every thread to be sure that I am not missing the thread you feel is more important?
And why is it you don't see the value of asking a question when another makes out that your subject isn't news yet it is?

I asked CindyB a question and did not attack her..

So why is it you and some of you're friends attack me?
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A few charts showing whom and amount of cuts in the Trump budget can be seen here.


Trump budget: Military wins, environment, aid lose big | News | Al Jazeera
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Why do you post in a debate forum then jump on everybody who dares to have a differing opinion.

My guess as to why Cindy posted here and addressed your post here is because Cindy and your post were here.

Am I now supposed to go back and check every thread to be sure that I am not missing the thread you feel is more important?
Gee we play guessing games to.. Great but thats your way not mine...

Funny how so much of the news including after 2 am RT.com was focused last evening on this very thing as I posted it.. So go bother CindyB as I don't need your guesses..

And BTY I didn't ask you to offer anything much less go look at threads.. That is your words not mine...

man you act like a Left winger with a mission...
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Gee we play guessing games to.. Great but thats your way not mine...

Funny how so much of the news including after 2 am RT.com was focused last evening on this very thing as I posted it.. So go bother CindyB as I don't need your guesses..

And BTY I didn't ask you to offer anything much less go look at threads.. That is your words not mine...

man you act like a Left winger with a mission...
Lurpy, it's a debate forum. A political debate forum. Open to everybody. You post, people respond.
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