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Old 03-18-2017, 10:03 AM
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It will be when we get done firing all those Federal judges who are obviously Democratic liberals! And replacing them with WASP judges!

Trump will get to it, just be patient. We will erase all signs of the left wing in the next 8 years.

You Trump haters lost the election, Remember?

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The wall thickness of the Trump Bubble is proving to be more impenetrable that the historic GOP Bubble.

In the dozens of lawsuits against Trump's executive orders based upon the allegation that they are Muslim Travel Bans that would cause irreparable harm if implemented both "liberal" and "conservative" federal judge appointments were involved. Not a single conservative justice has ruled for the government.

In the Seattle case where the original temporary restraining order was issued it was a federal judge appointed by a conservative president. When the case went before the three judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court one of the three judges was a conservative appointee. Four judges total with two being appointed by Republican presidents and two by Democratic presidents and all four unanimously ruled against the Trump travel ban because they unanimously agreed that the plaintiffs were very likely to win by proving the Executive Orders were Muslim Bans that were not based upon a "finding" (facts) that those affected represented a creditable terrorist threat.

Next is the Bubble's preventing of facts from entering.

A president cannot "fire" a federal judge! A federal judge can only be removed from the bench by impeachment were "misconduct" is established by FACTS. A decision against a president when the president's actions violate the law and/or Constitution does not represent misconduct and is not grounds for removal from the bench.

Trump is just the President of the United States limited by the law and the Constitution. Trump is not the Dictator of the United States where he can do whatever he damn well pleases in spite of the fact that Trump and his followers believe he has the powers of an absolute dictator.
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How is this a 2.0 Muslim ban when there was never a Muslim ban to begin with?

"A Muslim ban" is only a few of the whining cries the leftists and "progressives" can muster to soothe their butthurt over losing the election. I'm sure there wil be more booboos irritating in their panties for which they must make up another cry.
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As usual ShivaTD natter on trying to filibuster out of absurd positions by simple bloviation.

Repeating the falsehood that Presidential "findings" must be accompanied by sufficient proof to satisfy puffed up Federal judge's and partisan Democrats betrays an ignorance of the term. Back in the day when the judiciary confined themselves to their duties as specified by the Constitution a finding was a formal declaration by the President.

Ignoring for example, Iran's official policy of death to America and the State Department determination of their leading sponsorship of terrorism because they are nearly all Muslim is absurd. That is probably why the partisan judge ignored this obvious fact preferring to focus on bogus claims of discrimination to interpret "intent" .
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"A Muslim ban" is only a few of the whining cries the leftists and "progressives" can muster to soothe their butthurt over losing the election. I'm sure there wil be more booboos irritating in their panties for which they must make up another cry.
Stop talking BS from the Trump Bubble.

This has nothing to do with the election or anything to do with conservative or liberal politics.

It is exclusively related to the law and the US Constitution.

Trump as a candidate stated he was going to ban Muslim. Trump asked former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani to put together a commission to figure out how to legally ban Muslims. The commission informed Trump that instead of banning Muslims he could ban them based upon a "danger" and it would be legal.

President Trump's executive orders are based upon a "finding" (indisputable evidence) that the "citizens" from the listed represent a creditable threat of committing a terrorist attack if we allow them to come to the United State.

That claim of a "finding" has been challenged by dozens of lawsuit.

All that the Trump administration has been required to do is to provide the compelling evidence that the "danger" exists.

President Trump has also claimed a "Finding" that the State Department's visa issuing process to citizens of those countries is flawed and that it endangers Americans if people from these countries travel to the United States.

That claim of a "finding" has been challenged by dozens of lawsuits.

All that the Trump administration has been required to do is to provide the compelling evidence that the visa issuing process is seriously flawed and allowing terrorists to travel to the United States.

Two simple tests that the Trump Administration needs to meet that under the law it had to meet before even issuing the executive orders.

Show the Federal Courts the evidence that was used to established that a threat existed that was required to authorize issuing of the executive orders.

That's all.

Dozens of opportunities for the Trump administration to produce the evidence that it required before even issuing the executive orders and to date not one shred of evidence has been presented.

Realizing that it had no evidence the Trump Administration asked the Department of Homeland Security, that is the responsible agency, to find evidence. The response from the Department of Homeland Security was that the evidence DOES NOT EXIST.

No evidence of the threat and the executive order was issued based solely upon anti-Muslim prejudice and was issued with animus against the Muslims in direct violation of the law and the US Constitution.

THE BIGGER PROBLEM

President Trump suffers from malignant narcissism and lives in a delusional world. He is incapable of distinguishing reality from delusional which is why he repeatedly expresses blatant lies and is incapable of ever admitting he's wrong even when confronted with indisputable facts that he's wrong. Instead of admission of his mistakes he simply creates a new lie.

When confronted with his lie about having one of the largest electoral college wins ever he didn't admit he was wrong. He said "people told him" so that made his belief correct. When confronted with the fact that former President Obama never ordered US surveillance of Trump Tower he simply created a new lie based upon a statement on Fox New that has been discredited as being false. When confronted with that he refused to admit fault and instead told people to go talk to Fox News.

During the campaign his supporters didn't care if he told the truth. They just said "He speaks his mind" and even though what he said were lies his supporters accepted the lies because they believed them too.

DONALD TRUMP MUST BE REMOVED FROM POWER (NOT OFFICE) - NOT BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS LOST THE ELECTION BUT BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IS LIVING IN A DELUSIONAL WORLD AND CAN'T RECOGNIZE OR ACCEPT REALITY.

AMERICA CANNOT SURVIVE WITH A MENTALLY INCAPACITATED PERSON AS PRESIDENT.
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