Originally Posted by WallyWager

24 million people would their insurance under the Republican plan. Don't tell me exactly zero of them are using their health insurance right now so they can afford to stay alive. It's reasonable assume that some of folks who would lose their coverage wouldn't be able to afford treatment for life-threatening chronic conditions and would die as a result.

But it's okay because tax cuts.

Originally Posted by saltwn

I already addressed that. If they chose not to sign up their taxes were docked.Obama care is working even though many republican governors chose not to expand medicaid. unfortunately some people were too poor or ill to leave those states, but a lot of them did. that is sad too to have to leave your home for that reason. Also don't forget rick scott of florida took the medicaid expansion money but did not expand it. he did this at least twice. wonder how many more snakes did that. we all had to foot that bill. coupled with all those state's poor going to emergency rooms for last ditch care.
yeah these lousy new world republicans like ryan and cruz could have worked with the democrats back at the inception of obama care or at least tried to help work out some bugs along the way. that is what happens with most major legislation. but they were too busy in 2088 beginning to campaign for president. well look where it got them.

Originally Posted by pjohns

It seems to me that healthcare insurers should be able to charge more in premiums for those who are of higher risk--either because of past health problems, or because they are (statistically) more prone to health problems, because of the age group into which they fall.

After all, automobile insurance is sold this way: Those who have had past problems (i.e. at-fault accidents), as well as those who are in a higher-risk age group (in this case, young people), are charged more, all other factors being equal.

Originally Posted by GottaGo

They were penalized a paltry sum, which was cheaper than the insurance premiums. Yeah, TAHT's effective.

And where did those penalties go? To the General Fund..... not to the insurance companies in order to offset the rate increase that was necessary for them to charge to continue providing the insurance on an individual basis to higher risk people who did sign up.

There was an integral (intentional?) flaw in the PPACA. Some saw it. And many had their willful blinders on.....

Originally Posted by saltwn

this is worse for working people than even before obama care

Originally Posted by jimbo

How so?

Originally Posted by pjohns

It seems to me that healthcare insurers should be able to charge more in premiums for those who are of higher risk--either because of past health problems, or because they are (statistically) more prone to health problems, because of the age group into which they fall.

After all, automobile insurance is sold this way: Those who have had past problems (i.e. at-fault accidents), as well as those who are in a higher-risk age group (in this case, young people), are charged more, all other factors being equal.

Originally Posted by saltwn

might have been nice to point that out to your elected officials as the law was being hammered out.
oh yeah right ; they told you they were blocked from amending the law and you believed it.
well old broken record me: if you wanna find out about this budget bill without hype and lies, best tune in for several days
https://www.c-span.org/video/?425334...are-bill-house

Now we aren't even going to have that piece of money BUT we are paying for huge-a nd I mean really big -deductions of insurance for ONLY millionaires and billionaires.
guess who's gonna pay for that?
it's ok...
I'll wait...

Originally Posted by saltwn

except humans are not cars